Baseball Hitters

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:13] Speaker B: Hello, hello, hello. Here we are. We are back for a little Men of a Certain five. How about it? Thank you for joining us. I am your host, Brian Parks, joined by my co host, Phil Rizzo. Phil, say hello. [00:00:24] Speaker A: What is up, Palmer? What's going on, man? Back. We're back, baby. Another podcast. [00:00:28] Speaker B: We're back. We're back with a little sports pod this time around, you know, something a little different. But I've got to say we've gotten some very nice feedback on our last pod about the directors. What'd you think about that, Phil? [00:00:38] Speaker A: Yeah, that seems to have been a good one. You know, I didn't, I didn't. I mean, I don't know, I didn't necessarily think it would be good or bad or anything, but yeah, a lot of positive feedback on the director's pod. I think, I think it was a good one. It was a good choice of choice of topics there. [00:00:53] Speaker B: It was fun, definitely a lot of fun. Something we were both very interested in, passionate about. And you know, if we did a list right now, we'd probably have some other directors sneak into that list, who knows, you know, that's what the joy about doing this, you know. [00:01:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I had some, I had some friends talking to me about, about where I put Tarantino and, you know, this and that and I would have put this guy. That's. Yeah, that's the whole point. I love hearing everybody's opinion on it and stuff. [00:01:17] Speaker B: Definitely, definitely got a shout out from [00:01:19] Speaker A: a friend of mine, Steve Nash. Nash, who just listen to the pod for the first time. He just started listening to it and he really liked the director's pod and, and he gave me a call and told me that, that it was a good job. So. Yeah, man, thanks. Thanks, Steve Nash, for listening to the pod. Appreciate it, man. [00:01:36] Speaker B: Yeah, we. Same thing. My friend of mine, friend of ours, I should say, Bobby Tucker, I think he just got interested in the pod too. We listened to the directors one and he's gone back and listen to others. So shout out to him and it'll thank you and yeah, it's been, it's been fun. You know, it's funny too. Somebody, you know, like Bobby, I think he was hitting me with his own list, his top five and everything. I have to find it, but we should read it on there. It's kind of interest, that kind of stuff. I like getting other people's opinions on there, you know. [00:01:58] Speaker A: Oh yeah, that's the whole point, man. And I'd love to hear anybody's opinion, anybody listening too. If you, you know, not too late. Throw out your, your top five directors. Throw out your top five whatever. Any topics that we've done, we'd love to hear it. You know, we talk about it and, you know, see what's going on there. We want to hear everybody's, everybody's opinion. That's, that's part of the fun. [00:02:16] Speaker B: Speaking of, you know, you know, hearing from the fans, I would, you know, we would enjoy hearing all your opinions about the different topics and everything. But some of the topics we've done in the past been Looney Tunes. So I figured before we get into this list today, I gotta tell you, you know, it breaks my heart there you aren't with me. But I did go see the Coyote vs. Acme film. [00:02:34] Speaker A: Oh, you saw it? How was it? [00:02:37] Speaker B: Really a lot of fun. They did a good, good job. You know, it's interesting, for some reason I never went back to some of the other ones they've done like in the last, I don't know, 23rd, like Looney Tunes back in action. I never checked that out. You ever see that? [00:02:48] Speaker A: No, I never saw that one. [00:02:50] Speaker B: I'm trying to think of like, you know, I mean, I saw the original Space Jam. I did not see the new one. They did, but, but for some reason this one, I mean, it's right up our alley, especially with the Coyote, you know, and the, the premise seemed like a brilliant idea. And I love the MacGruber guy. What's his name? [00:03:03] Speaker A: Yeah, Will Forte. [00:03:04] Speaker B: Will Forte. And I gotta say, they did a hell of a job. Really, it was a lot, I thought it was really just a lot of fun, you know, I mean, they, they kind of had little bits here or there for almost every main character. You didn't, you didn't see Speedy Gonzalez, but you heard of, mentioned you saw a picture of Marvin the Martian. But you know, everyone else kind of, I mean, for the most part, yeah, I'm not going to tell you. Everybody that you see, but not only the main ones, you see some, you know, one offs there. I'm telling you, if you're alluding to his fan, you're gonna love the damn thing. I, I can't imagine you would. [00:03:35] Speaker A: Check it out, A friend of mine, you know, the hick was John, was gonna go with his kids on Sunday. I thought about going with him, but then I, I, I opted to not go. Then he ended up not going either. You know, John, big, big Bugs Bunny fan as well. So definitely, I'm definitely gonna check it out soon. It looks pretty good. It's getting really great reviews too. A lot of people are saying it's, it's really good, good to hear because [00:03:54] Speaker B: apparently I didn't read into everything, but they went through a lot of muck and mire to get that thing made and everything. Right. [00:03:59] Speaker A: You mean like requiring the rights? Why is that kind of stuff? [00:04:02] Speaker B: So, yeah, it was like. It took a while or something. Right. There was some kind of drama going on with something with the film, but then it finally got made and then it's doing pretty well. It's pretty good to hear. [00:04:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Cuz a lot of the other ones you mentioned before, like back in action and stuff, I never saw them either, but they didn't really get good reviews like the original Space Jam kind of did, but the second one definitely did not. So it's good to hear that. It's, it's a good product. Can't wait to check it out. And I'm sure we'll be back with another Looney Tunes pod at some point. [00:04:28] Speaker B: Oh, you know that, you know that. And it's funny, you know, Space Jam, obviously a basketball one, but today we got a little baseball for you. What do you think about that? [00:04:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I think we wanted to go back to sports. You know, we hadn't done sports in a while. Last sports one we did was what, our live sporting events that we checked out. [00:04:44] Speaker B: I think so. Yeah. [00:04:45] Speaker A: I think it's the only sports one we've done. Right. We haven't done any other. [00:04:48] Speaker B: You know what, I think I'm confused because we mentioned some different lists we wanted to do of other sports ones. But I think you're right. The only one we have done is the live sports, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah. [00:04:56] Speaker A: So we'll get a little specific today. We're doing a little. Doing a little baseball today. [00:05:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Now, you know, I'm going to preface this right off the top that, you know, I have to say I'm not the biggest baseball fan in the world at all, but. But I will say that I, you know, me and my brother grew up big sports fans all around, really. You know, my father was one that. We watched the playoffs. No matter what the sport was, when the playoffs were on, we watched it. The World Series we would watch. I mean, obviously the Stanley cup playoffs and football were two different things. We loved all of them, but the basketball and the baseball were not really as big for us. But the playoffs we would always watch. And I have a lot of World Series memories from the Joe Carter days back with Toronto there and you know, all the way up through the Yankees nonsense in the early 2000s there. And I don't really go back too farther than I would say. I want to say Kirby Puckett, didn't he win with Minnesota in like the early 90s or something like that? [00:05:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, sure did. [00:05:52] Speaker B: I don't really remember a lot of the late 80s World Series. I mean, I definitely watched some baseball here or there, but I definitely. That's about as far back as I go for that. [00:05:59] Speaker A: No, no, that's good. You know, it's funny, I think I mentioned on the live sporting events pod, I did actually see Puckett play a game in Minnesota the year that they won. Not a playoff game or anything, but we were in Minnesota that year and I remember Puckett went 4 for 4 on that in that game. And then they. They wanted to win the. Win the World Series that year. That was kind of cool. Yeah, you know, I, I was, you know, into the early, like mid-80s, I'd say. I kind of got into baseball. I was a Met fan. Not at first, as we'll talk about, but yeah, no, no, I was a big Met fan in the 80s, 90s. I kind of didn't watch baseball at all. I watched mostly, if you can believe this, hockey. Obviously. I was a big Devil fan. I watched hockey and I watched like the Knicks more than I watched the Mets or the. Or the Commanders, my other team. Yeah, something. I mean, the 90s Knicks were fun to watch. 90s basketball was fun to watch. So I was just kind of into that. And then around, I guess around 99, I got back into baseball pretty hard and it was pretty much just baseball and hockey for the next, you know, 10, 15 years or so. And then I kind of just left hockey behind for a little while. So I was pretty die hard. Baseball From, I'd say 99 to like 2016, 2017, around there, pretty much watched only baseball. So. Yeah. So which kind of brings me to. I really want to know how you picked your list. So, folks, we decided to do our top five baseball players. This is position players, not pitchers. And I think the only other criteria we had was that they had to be ballplayers. Like just in our era, like since we've been alive, basically is what our criteria was. Now I've since condensed my criteria as well. How about you? We'll start with you. How did you. How did you come up with your list here? What rules and guidelines did you. Did you use. [00:07:45] Speaker B: You know, it's a great question because I. In your description of Everything leading up to that, that point, I, I realized that I, I don't think I've watched a baseball game from first pitch to the last out, in, in, in. I don't even know how long it's been. Like, I mean, I mean, even when I was younger, even when I was watching the World Series, did I watch every pitch? You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, as far, you know, and like you said, when you were big into baseball, like, I, I've never really been big into baseball. I would say, you know, you know, regular season, I mean, if I saw one or two games, that would be a lot, you know, but if you ever went to a game, that's a different story. But, but even that, I've seen live baseball games. Maybe, like, you know, I know you're [00:08:24] Speaker A: at a good one, you know, with me. [00:08:26] Speaker B: Major league baseball leagues. Oh, I know we were. I'm sure we'll be talking about that one. But, but I, I, so, so, so, to be honest with you, as far as the list goes, obviously being from here, from here, like, I don't know if anybody else outside of our area is listening to this, but, you know, we know they are, but I've lived in North Jersey my whole life, basically, you know, a little South Jersey there in New York. Not really. I've, you know, been around it, but not really as an adult, at least not, you know, living there and everything. So I think that a lot of met Yankee very heavy. So as far as making the list with the players, a lot of it, to be honest with you, a lot of my memory is going to come from a lot of Sports center highlights and stuff like that. Like, that was one thing, especially when I was a kid. Sports center was just kind of coming into its thing, you know, and you get a ton of baseball from all over the country, and it was phenomenal to see that. [00:09:13] Speaker A: But. [00:09:14] Speaker B: So it's a little mixed bag there with that, some playoff memories and that kind of thing. And I just, I feel like I'm going with what I think as far as. To be the guys that stuck out, some of them. I think at least one guy is one of my favorite. I had to put him in there. But, but, but, but as far as what I think are the best ones that I've seen in my life up to now. I mean, I'm, you know, who knows? This is what I'm doing. [00:09:33] Speaker A: So a little different. So, so like I said, I tried to narrow it to. And again, folks, we said, so these are players Baseball players, non pitchers that are kind of in our lifetime or since we've been watching ball. So this isn't like a, you know, who's better, Mickey Mantle or Lou Gehri kind of thing. You know, it's. It's. I went with players I either watched on a regular basis or followed closely. So I'll give you an example. So one player that I didn't follow at all is like, Mike Trout. You know what I mean? I know, like, at one point he was the best player in the game. So, like, I'd say so again, folks, this is disappointing. I apologize. Mike Trout's not going to be my list. You know, stuff. Stuff like that. [00:10:14] Speaker B: Yeah, me either. Just to cut you off. I'm with you there. I know he was phenomenal, but to me, I always remember him being hurt, but I don't really know much about the guy, you know, plus he's west. It's funny with baseball. [00:10:23] Speaker A: It's a huge part of it, right? So I'm a National League. I watch the Mets mostly, most of my life. Now, that being said, I do have, like, I want to say at least two American League players on my list, but I mainly only got to see National League teams. You know, as I watch the Mets, you don't really see the other side unless, you know, there's interleague play and then there's the playoffs and, you know, the big chunk of my life, there was no interleague play either. So, you know, you really just saw, you know, the National League. If you're a Met fan or if you're, you know, a Mariners fan, you only saw the American League. So my, you know, fandom was only limited to. To. To, you know, certain players, basically. But, yeah, so there are some players that, you know, who may have been the best player in the league at the time that might not be on the list. You know, players like, like I said, Mike Trout, you know, Wade Boggs, like, players like that who, like, you know, I respect. I know they're one of the greats. I respect them, but they didn't make the list. Another category, there's two more categories that I kind of ruled out. One category is players I was necessarily too young for. You know, players like Mike Schmidt or George Brett who had their prime in, like, the late 70s, early 80s. And I kind of wasn't into baseball until, like, the mid-80s. That being said, I do have a player from that era on my list, but we'll get to that. And then the other category real quick. I'm Sorry, I'm going on for the other category. I left out no steroids, so I just didn't do it. So, you know, and, and not that I don't think some of these players deserve to be in the hall of Fame, or I don't think that, but honestly, to make it like a semi interesting list, I ruled out Barry Bonds, a Rod, Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa, etc, so those players are not on my list either. And I know a lot of you are saying, oh, so who's left? You know, Rafael Santana from, like, who's gonna be on your list, man. But that's, that's kind of, that's kind of where I ended up. That being said, I think I still have a pretty good list. And again, yeah, it's half, you know, great players who I've seen and half, like, personal to me players. So that's kind of where I landed with my list. [00:12:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it's, I mean, it's hard not to get a little personal here, like, what are we doing? You know? [00:12:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, because again, you know, the reason why, you know, we, we have great conversations sometimes because we're passionate about certain things and, you know, just sort of abstractly talking about Ty Cobb would not be, you know, we'd be reciting stats and what we heard other people do, you know, nothing personal, no personal resonance there, blah, blah, blah. So I'm thinking, I'm thinking this was the way to go. But folks, you could tell me if it's a ridiculous list or not. I welcome your, your criticisms and witticisms. [00:13:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I, it's hard not to go along with that. I feel like, you know, ironically, mine is kind of like that too. I feel like I skipped over the, that era of, of baseball, you know, which is, it's funny how it's like, got this black mark for us in that time period because it was like, right in the middle of, like, I don't know, I don't want to say, like, our youth there or right in the middle of us coming out of, you know, the teenage baseball years. Now you're an adult and you're watching this, you know, what the hell happened to the sport here? I don't know. You know, there's like a weird thing there. [00:13:40] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's a shame because that was, that was such a fun year. That was such a fun time, you know, when McGuire and Sosa were going back and forth breaking the home run record. You know, it's, and again, like I said, not that I necessarily don't think Barry Bonds or Roger Clemens should be in the hall of Fame, because I think eventually they will, if they're not already. Again, I haven't really paid attention at all in the last, you know, six or seven years at this point. People listen. This Potter going, then why assholes are you doing this topic if you're so uneducated about it? Here's why. Because I think part of that will make it fun. I think, you know, us sort of relying more on our personal, you know, idiotic preferences and memories, I think is part of the fun for us anyway. And I think it'll translate. But we. Will you be the judge? You know, we'll. We'll see about that. But first, if you want to check out some of our content on Tick Tock or Instagram, you can do that at Men of a Certain Five. That's the number five. Or you can shoot us an email and tell us how stupid we are at Men of a certain five. That's F I V E for the emailmail.com. let us know what's going on. We'd like to hear from you. And you could let us know, you know, how terrible we are. Hey. Or how great we are. Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid to tell us how awesome we are. And if you're interested in a little sci fi for your ass, we actually do another podcast called the Star Trek Warp Top 10 podcast, where you do, you know, top tens in the world of Star Trek. Bomber here was going through Next Generation for the first time. So we're going through each episode with him, checking it out. If you want something different, check out that pod as well. We have a lot of fun on there as well. But no Star Trek today, buddy. Let's just talk some baseball. What do you say? [00:15:20] Speaker B: We're talking baseball. You know, I. I was close to putting Jake Taylor on the list. I'm not gonna lie to you. What? What? How do you want to cook this off? You know, do we. Any other banter we want to go on with here, or are we going to get involved in this here? [00:15:36] Speaker A: You say let's jump in. I feel like it's going to be more of a fluid conversation than just, you know, relegated to our five. So I say let's just jump in. I can't remember who went first last time, but I'll go first. That way you can. You can bring us home. Does that sound all right? [00:15:50] Speaker B: You're. You're. You're usually pretty good with that. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. [00:15:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll make a note of it. So next time we'll know for sure. You go first. Next time we'll sing. [00:15:56] Speaker B: I think you're right. I think. I think you ended it last time, so I think that's. [00:16:01] Speaker A: I think so. With Tarantino. [00:16:02] Speaker B: Right. [00:16:02] Speaker A: I feel like I did it last time. Okay. [00:16:04] Speaker B: Yep. [00:16:04] Speaker A: So you bring it home today. So. Yeah. So I'm going to kick this off. And folks, everything I said about, you know, being too young to appreciate some of these 70s players, I'm going to throw that right out the window right now. Throw that right out the window right now. My number five is Reggie Jackson. [00:16:22] Speaker B: Wow. [00:16:23] Speaker A: Yeah. So there's a lot of this. This is definitely the most personal pick on my list, and there's a few reasons for that. One, you know, the first game I ever saw, first baseball game I ever saw was a doubleheader, was the Yankees against the Royals in, I want to say, 1983. And all me and my friends could think about seeing was Reggie Jackson. He was. He was the. At the time, Mr. October was, you know, just a few years behind. So, you know, Reggie Jackson was. Was baseball royalty at the time. And, yeah, we couldn't wait to see him. So that was a lot of fun. I was not a Yankee fan. I wasn't an anything fan when I saw this first game. I was a Royals fan after the game, if you can believe it. [00:17:06] Speaker B: Wow. [00:17:07] Speaker A: I think I was kind of a contrarian when I was growing up. You know, my. My father and brother were Rangers fans, so I was a Devils fan. They were Yankees fans. I was a Met fan, you know, you know, a Royals fan at first, but I kind of like the idea of being my own guy, so. So I missed out on 78, you know, world Series rings. And I'm just a Met fan. So, you know, it is what it is. That's what I get for being a contrarian. But Reggie Jackson. Yeah, so. So I think he was probably the first baseball player I ever idolized as a kid, which is important. That gave way to Daryl Strawberry. I was. He was my big, big, you know, guy growing up. Loved watching Strawberry. But, yeah, Reggie Jackson was the first, you know, Mr. October, like, you know, his. His postseason performance was pretty incredible, especially in the 77 World Series. He hit the three home runs in the one game. He won five World Series in seven years. Did you know that? [00:18:07] Speaker B: Wow. [00:18:07] Speaker A: From 72 to 78, he won three with the A's. Took a couple years off them one, two in the row with the. With the Yankees, I didn't realize that postseason legend Reggie Jackson, Mr. October. And he was in Naked Gun. [00:18:20] Speaker B: Naked Gun legend. [00:18:22] Speaker A: So, I mean, come on, how can I not throw him on the list somewhere? What do you, what do you think about Reggie Jackson? [00:18:29] Speaker B: You know, it's, it's a great pick. I, I don't know much about him. [00:18:32] Speaker A: I. [00:18:33] Speaker B: Obviously the Mr. October and the three home runs of. Everybody that knows. Knows anything about baseball. Knows, knows that. But I never knew about his career. I knew he was another team. Didn't realize he did that well with the A's and everything. And you know, I know it's funny because I'm trying to think of the right way to word this where I feel like you get some of these Yankee. When you get into these Yankee conversations, a lot of times we're at all time Yankees this and that. [00:18:53] Speaker A: You. [00:18:53] Speaker B: There's some people that they don't want to hold on to Reggie because he wasn't, you know, it's like that whole thing where like he wasn't, he wasn't with us all the time or, you know what I mean? Like, I mean like when you think of him, do you identify him as a Yankee or do you identify him as an A, I guess, as you say, or, you know, I don't know. [00:19:06] Speaker A: I identify him as a Yankee because, you know, like I mentioned before, I was too young to watch him on the A's. He was pretty irrelevant on the Angels and the other teams that he played for by the time I, you know, was a really full swing baseball. So he'll always be a Yankee to me. [00:19:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:21] Speaker A: And again, I'm not a Yankee fan. There's no Yankee nostalgia there. But unfortunately there's two fucking Yankees on my list. So. I mean, do the Yankees. [00:19:28] Speaker B: Right. [00:19:29] Speaker A: You're talking baseball players. How could you not include some Yankees? It is what it is, of course. So. Shit, now I think about it, I have three American League players on my team. So, you know, screw what I said before about the American National League. [00:19:40] Speaker B: Nice. See, there you go. [00:19:41] Speaker A: What are you gonna do? Yeah, Reggie. So that's it. That's my number five, you know, Mr. October. Hey, let me ask you something. Do you remember, do you remember someone being called Mr. November? [00:19:52] Speaker B: Jeter. [00:19:53] Speaker A: Okay, I'm just curious you remember that or not? Because it's, you know, he's mainly known as the captain now. Right. But like, right, like he was Mr. November because, you know, when the World Series started, it got pushed back to November, that one year that was a kind of an interesting, interesting nickname. I kind of liked it. And it was an homage to Reggie, of course. [00:20:10] Speaker B: I'm trying to know why did that get pushed back that year? Was that a strike thing? Or was it, like, wasn't like 911 didn't have anything to do with it, did it? Or. I'm trying to remember, what was the reasoning for that? Do you remember? [00:20:19] Speaker A: I think it was 911. Right. I think the World Series got pushed back to. Because. But you know what? They didn't win the World Series that year, so. [00:20:28] Speaker B: They didn't win it that year. [00:20:28] Speaker A: No, they. [00:20:29] Speaker B: To Florida. [00:20:30] Speaker A: There was a. I want to say there was like a TV reason or something, or maybe there was. Yeah. You know what? I, I didn't. I forget why, too. But I remember the World Series did bleed into November, which was, which is crazy. And I remember they called him that. I thought it was a cool nickname, and I thought it was a nice, nice tip of the cap to Reggie's nickname. [00:20:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. [00:20:50] Speaker A: All right, man, kick it off. Let's see. What's your number five there? [00:20:54] Speaker B: Well, you know, it's funny you said that, the whole thing with your first guy, because I got to be honest, I was, I was, I was back and forth with this fifth spot here. I really got to be honest. [00:21:04] Speaker A: Hard list to do. So hard. [00:21:06] Speaker B: Very hard. [00:21:06] Speaker A: And I was, probably because of all the rules we made up, too, by the way. [00:21:09] Speaker B: Oh, of course. But I, I, I had a hard time not putting Jeter on there or anybody from that team. And again, I'm a Yankee fan mostly by default. I was born in the Bronx. Hence, what. Why a lot of you guys have the nickname for me, which is Bomber, but it's mostly because of Chris or Rock, a little shout out there, who worked with me in Burger. He asked me a little bit about myself working with me. He's like, where are you from? I said, well, I was actually born in New York, but I live in Jersey, the Bronx, the Bronx Bomber. I'm going to call you Bomber, and that's how that whole thing happened. But, you know, my dad was a big Yankee fan, so we were Yankee fans. But, But I. And again, that's. To me, saying I'm a Yankee fan is like saying, you know, you know, I like to watch the Golden Girls now. I don't know. You know, I'm not like a Die Hard, like, you know. [00:21:51] Speaker A: Yeah, it's funny when you. Seinfeld fan, right? It's like, fanatic is what it stands for, right? Like, yeah, but pretty Much we say you're either a fan of. You're a die hard fan. Right? Like. [00:22:00] Speaker B: Right. [00:22:01] Speaker A: I've very briefly been a die hard Mets fan. I've briefly been a die hard Devils fan. But if you ask me, a real diehard fan is like you Cowboys your whole fucking life. My brother Rangers, the whole fucking life. Like, I've never been that dedicated to one team my entire life. So I wouldn't even say I'm a die hard fan at anything. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:17] Speaker A: You know, except Star Trek, basically. But. [00:22:19] Speaker B: Right. [00:22:20] Speaker A: Other than that, you know. So I hear you. I hear you. It's. It's, it's. It's tough, you know. You know, but I'll say this on your behalf. You are one of the biggest sports guys I know. And, And I would trust your judgment with any sport, you know, at least well be able to speak intelligently about. You know what I mean? Like, you know, something like baseball. I got no, I know you'll be able to, to, you know, have a whole conversation. [00:22:46] Speaker B: Right. Even though I don't really know. [00:22:47] Speaker A: Even though, you know, the whole thing. Whereas me with football nowadays, like, like, you know, I. I could maybe get by, but like just barely, like, you know what I mean? Like, I couldn't really do that. [00:22:56] Speaker B: I thought you got back into it for a little while, maybe with fantasy or something or making picks and stuff, but not anymore. [00:23:00] Speaker A: I definitely did. I mean, it helps that, you know, the girls are into it. You know, it helps that that, you know, angel and Emma liked watching football and we were in some pools and so I was real pretty into it again, you know, like 10 years ago. But this year, I got to tell you, they're all in a pool. I'm not even bothering. I'm. I'm not gonna do it. And I never win them, you know, Juan, Juan stepped in as the. As the man of the house. He's jumping in the pool with Angel, Emma and Jacobe. [00:23:23] Speaker B: So nice. [00:23:24] Speaker A: I'm just sitting it out. This is gonna be the year they're win too watch knockout pool or whatever. So. Yeah, you know, I never win that. Yeah, yeah, no, so is what it is. So totally get it disclaimers out there, you know, we're not die hard fans of baseball, at least not right now. And yeah, take. Take it with a grain of salt, folks. [00:23:42] Speaker B: Yeah, so I, I was gonna go with someone like Jeter and I, I've seen him more than the guy, I'm gonna say, but I, I decided to go with this guy just because it's like you said it was like the first impression kind of thing. And for me, you know, now, I grew up in the era where it was, you know, Mattingly was. That was. And I love Matley. I mean, if you're a Yankee fan of my time, you have to love Maddenley, you know, but. [00:23:59] Speaker A: No doubt. [00:23:59] Speaker B: But my guy that I, that I loved even more than him, I gotta tell you, was, was, Was Dave Winfield. Man, I love Dave. [00:24:06] Speaker A: Nice. [00:24:06] Speaker B: So I put, I had to put him on it just because he was just a big guy. He looked like a linebacker, you know, like, when you saw him at the plate, I was like, this guy is gonna maul the ball. Like, I, I, I absolutely thought this guy was an awesome, awesome per, you know, athlete. I was like, damn. And I, you know, again, I don't know much about his career. I don't know. You know, I don't think he, he definitely didn't win the World Series with the Yankees. I don't know if he won one. I know he's played on. He played in other teams and everything, [00:24:28] Speaker A: but matter of fact, there was a big controversy about what team he was going into the World Series as well. I mean, to the hall of Fame, as. Wasn't there. It was either Padres or was it the Padres? [00:24:37] Speaker B: Okay, I, I was gonna say, I don't remember what there was definitely, but, but he bounced around. I don't think it was just two teams, but if there was, maybe it was just the two teams that it was mostly associated with. [00:24:45] Speaker A: That's correct. Yeah. And a lot of Yankees fans were pissed. He didn't, he didn't. I think he ended up going in with both teams, but I feel like he was going to go with the Padres, and they were like, fuck that. And I think I'd have to check that out. But I know he's a Hall of Famer, and I know there was a controversy there. [00:24:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, that's it. Like, I don't even remember. Like, you know, I can't even give, like, a famous player or anything like that. All I remember is. It's funny because, you know, you have this conversation with people who had the best stance or who had the sweetest swing stuff, those kind of conversations, you know. But to me, he was like the Incredible Hulk at the plate. Like, I just thought this guy was. Especially when you were a kid, you're like, I'm like this, look at this guy. You know? Plus, we were big football fans. I'm like, I would, I wanted this guy to play for The Cowboys. This guy was a monster. [00:25:27] Speaker A: He was. [00:25:29] Speaker B: So I, I just put him on. I gave him the fifth spot. What can I do? [00:25:32] Speaker A: Yeah, look, because I feel like when we were young, like, he was one of the players people talked about all the time. He was one of the players that, like, kids talked about a lot around here, you know what I mean? And again, Palmer grew up in New York. You know, I grew up in Jersey, so, like, you know, it's all Mets, Yankees here. So. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm definitely the. Winfield was a big, big guy when we were big player when we were kids, definitely. [00:25:53] Speaker B: And I gotta tell you right now, I. I don't have any Mets on my list. I. I have to apologize to you. Right there off the top, I had to put one. All right, one did come close, which we'll get to when the honorable mention. Let's get the number four here. What do you got? [00:26:09] Speaker A: Well, I'll tell you what. This, this one will be evident to anyone who's ever collected baseball cards. You know, this one was. Was a hot commodity for a while. And this one is a number four. I gotta go. I gotta go. Ken Griffey Jr. Wow. [00:26:23] Speaker B: Nice. [00:26:24] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, not just cuz, you know, he. Everyone thought his rookie card would be worth $10,000. You know, in three years I collected, I had like 30 of them. Like, like I was gonna invest for the rest of my life. But when you collect baseball cards and the hot ones, you think they're gonna stay hot the whole time, you know, like, Greg Jeffries fucking rookie card is gonna be worth, you know, $6,000 someday. It's funny, when you collected baseball cards in the late 80s and early 90s, you, you know, you had enough cards. Like, it was still, I should say, by the late 80s, it wasn't popular enough where you were priced out of it, yet. You were getting there pretty fast. But by 1990, 91, you know, the dealers, the car dealers pretty much pushed the regular kids out of the game. But there was a while there when you were hearing stories about, you know, your dad having all these Mickey Mantle rookie cards and now they're worth $52,000. So in your head. [00:27:13] Speaker B: Yes. [00:27:13] Speaker A: You're like, oh, my God, I'm saving every Ken Griffey Jr. Rookie card that I have, you know, but it is what it is. So, yeah. Griffey Jr. So listen, he always stuck out in my head. I always love Griffey Jr. Starting with the baseball cards. I always loved him, and I followed his career, even though he was mostly an al, you know, player. Yeah, the man had, the man hit 630 home runs and he missed pretty much three full seasons, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, that to me is pretty incredible. That to me means I think he would have easily hit 700 home runs. I don't think he would have caught Bonds or Aaron, but I think he would have passed my number one, actually, that we'll talk about later. But I mean, that 700 Club is pretty, pretty elite. And yeah, no doubt if he wasn't, if he wasn't hurt, I think he would have done some damage even being hurt. This guy still hit 27, 81 hits even though he played in less than 100 games in six different seasons. Like, you know, like I said, he basically missed three full seasons, two of them in his prime. So I mean, you got to figure a minimum 40 home runs those years, you know what I mean? If he keeps, keeps to his average and right there, that puts him over 700. So that, that would have been pretty sick. And if he would have made that club, only four other players to this day have hit over 700 home runs. You know, Barry Bonds, Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, and my number one. So we'll talk about that later. You know, I think about a lot. I think about that 90s Mariners team. Like at one point, Griffey, a Rod and Randy Johnson were on the same team. That must have been a fun time to kind of hang out. Check that out. [00:28:51] Speaker B: Now I'm gonna show my knowledge here. Not being good at all. Wasn't there a player named Edgar Martinez that was good? Was he. [00:28:56] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:28:57] Speaker B: Team or was that later on? [00:28:58] Speaker A: No, I don't know. I don't know if it was later on, but he was definitely in the 90s. [00:29:01] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. [00:29:02] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, he was good. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, like, I mean, every, I think every, every player on my team's a Hall of Fame. Every player that I'm picking today is a Hall of Famer. Griffey went in in 2016 and this is a cool stat. So he is the only player in major league history to hit 600 home runs and win 10 Golden Gloves. So that's pretty impressive. So, yeah, for every card collecting kid out there, Ken Griffey Jr. After all these years, he didn't make me any money, but he made my list. He's number four. [00:29:29] Speaker B: I gotta tell you, I, I, obviously we, we had baseball cards. Obviously we weren't as prevalent with them as we were at the football. For some reason. The only card I Remember right now that we definitely loved having was the Bo Jackson tops with like the wooden border. It was a Kansas City Royals card. [00:29:43] Speaker A: Like, you know, the Wooden Border was 87. His rookie was actually 86. He was in the. The updates. The traded set was rookie 86. But he. But his rookie was technically, you know, like with cards. Like they had a rookie. But then like if they were in the traded set, that was technically the rookie card. So. So I know what you're talking about. That was the 87 top set with the wooden border. That was a popular one. [00:30:02] Speaker B: But I remember. But I remember football. Obviously. Football cards were way more for us. But we had like the 89 score was a big year. I remember we had like. That's the Barry Sanders, Troy Aikman Dion year. [00:30:12] Speaker A: Those are fun. The purple and red cards. [00:30:14] Speaker B: And I remember those and. But I do remember that the tops. And I'm sure they had this for baseball and I probably had these as a kid too. I. You know. But I'm sure you did. Well, I specifically remember the tops football. And I don't know specifically what the year was. They probably did it for several years when you got that bubble gum on the top of that deck of cards and I can't believe we used to eat that. Like I. I wonder if I invent this bills today because we used to chomp on that. Like it is insane that we used to do that, isn't it? [00:30:39] Speaker A: Like, you know, it was so stale and it was. It snapped like brick. Like it was. It was just. It was crazy. But I loved it, man. Because what's better than going through a pack of cards with of shitty gum in your mouth, right? [00:30:50] Speaker B: What the hell are we doing? I know, I know. [00:30:51] Speaker A: I used to love it. What a fun time. You know, at one point we were. We got so into it, we bought a. I might have told you this. We bought it in 1990 at the peak of our card collecting. We bought a vendor case. Do you remember those? What those were like. [00:31:05] Speaker B: I do vaguely. I definitely remember the term. [00:31:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Where you just get like. Like we ended up making like 21 sets of 1990 tops out of the vendor case. [00:31:12] Speaker B: I think we did that with football. I want to say maybe it was 89 score or maybe we were so into 89 we got it in 90. But I think we did the same thing. Pretty sure. [00:31:20] Speaker A: Funny. The same year. That's interesting. Yeah. [00:31:22] Speaker B: Yeah, right, Exactly. And I real quick. I wanted to tell you when you talk about the Mickey Mantle thing that we and Allison went to fourth Of July, one year we went to Rhode Island. We took a road trip to Rhode Island. This is like, I don't know how many years ago now, Four or five years. And on the way back, we were like, ah, let's hit the Foxwoods casino, you know, play a little, you know, and have you ever been there? [00:31:42] Speaker A: Never been to Foxwoods. [00:31:44] Speaker B: And I don't remember what section of the casino we walked into, but when we walked in, they had a card store there in, in the, in the, in the hotel or whatever you want to say. And in the window they had the, the, a Mickey Mantle rookie there. The one you probably have seen. [00:31:59] Speaker A: 1952. [00:32:01] Speaker B: It was, I want to say it was three hundred and something. Thousand Holy. [00:32:07] Speaker A: Really? I, I, I. [00:32:08] Speaker B: Now I, I'm trying to remember this. [00:32:10] Speaker A: It's probably jacked up being in casino, but still. [00:32:13] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe. Yeah, could be. [00:32:15] Speaker A: Not that much though. 300,000. Holy. [00:32:17] Speaker B: But, but I was wondering, like you said, like, you know, it seemed like there was a period of time where some, at least for those cards, were insane. Like you said, we thought we had a gold mine in our hands. But then it seemed like it kind of over time, they didn't really seem to be worth what they were at one point. [00:32:30] Speaker A: Yeah, the whole market got oversaturated. I mean, when everyone collects it, you know, they seem to be rare, right? [00:32:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:37] Speaker A: So it was a shame. My father zigged when the rest of us were zagging back in the, in the late 80s, I think I told you this. So he ended up, he just, he bought a bunch of football, hockey and basketball cards. So while everyone was buying baseball, he collected every set and every NFL set from the 80s, every, every card brand. So he collected every top set from the 80s for football, every FLIR set, everything. Every single set in the 80s, he, he bought and owned. We recently sold all of our cards except our hockey cards. We sold all of them to a friend of ours for $5,000 for just the whole set. Take it off our hands, boom. You know, we're never gonna do anything with it. But the biggest card we sold in that set was the Bird magic rookie card. I don't even know anything about the basketball cards from like, whatever it was 78, but they were like graham crackers. There were three different mini cards on one card and you, the idea is you broke them off and they became these little, you know, like I said, these graham cracker sized, you know, cards. And it just so happened that Magic and bird were both rookies on the same card. And the Third player just so happened was Dr. J. So that car was worth like a bunch of money and geez, that. And like Joe Montana, rookie, I think, from the 82 set. So. So, you know, the guy probably made like 15,000 selling them off. [00:33:57] Speaker B: Yeah, right, exactly. [00:33:58] Speaker A: But it was. We just wanted them. We had a whole. We could open up our own store. We really could. Could have. So we just. We collected so many. My father just was non stop. I was non stop, my brother. So. Yeah, so it was fun. It was a fun thing to do. So. Yeah. So I followed a lot of these players that we're talking about today on the backs of cards first and then on TV second, you know, I mean, Griffey Jr. Being one of them. And he was such a phenom when he first started. That was just exciting to talk about him. Even though I didn't get to watch him on TV as often as I wanted to, following his career was. Was fun. So. Yeah, my number four. [00:34:31] Speaker B: You know, you bring back a bad memory there, is that. My. My. After my parents passed, we. My. We. My brother wound up taking. Holding on to the cards and the comic books that we had and kept them in his basement in Bayonne, an apartment building. And somebody got in there, got them all gone. Somebody robbed the whole. [00:34:49] Speaker A: Oh, robbed him. I thought you were gonna. I thought you had told me that they flooded or something. Oh, my God, that sucks. Yeah, he probably had some good shit too. [00:34:57] Speaker B: We did condense it, you know, after we moved them over there, but we tried to keep what we thought was gonna be. But it's hilarious. That was. That was a sad thing because I would love to have seen. So the only thing I have, I have one little booklet. I kept some of my Dallas Cowboys cards, but I do not have anything else. I have no Devil's cards, no baseball. All the other football cards we had. And some basketball too, obviously, but. And I remember back in the day, I don't go on a car tangent here, but I remember doing the old movie cards. Like, they used to have the Batman 89, Dick Tracy, the movies used to have the cars, Return of the Jedi. [00:35:29] Speaker A: It's funny you said that, bro. I just. We were at Asbury Park. We met a couple friends for Juan and Ashley for lunch in Asbury. And there had this like, toy collectible shop right there, right across from Taka in Asbury. And they had a whole box of Dick Tracy, the actual cards in the pack in that. So I just saw that. I was like, I remember they had those. [00:35:48] Speaker B: I remember that. [00:35:49] Speaker A: Yeah. That was good. Yeah. Of course, I had to Return of the Jedi cards, like you said. Batman. It had, like, E.T. i think, had a set, like, it had to be like a big movie in order to have, like, a card set to go with it, but. Yeah, yeah, no, I remember that. Those are. Oh, and wrestling cards were fun. We had wrestling cards as a kid, too. Yes, there was a great set in the 80s that we saw. Those are fun then. [00:36:13] Speaker B: They used to come out with the Marvel cards, too. Came out at one point, if you remember those. [00:36:16] Speaker A: Oh, did they? I don't remember those. [00:36:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, they were cool as hell. They, you know, I told you, like, the back of the car was like, the origin story or this, you know, had some stats on there. [00:36:25] Speaker A: That's cool. Right? Right. Could lift £8,000 kind of shit, you [00:36:28] Speaker B: know, early mid-90s, I want to say. Yeah. [00:36:30] Speaker A: Oh, that's cool. You know, I don't remember that, but that's. That's pretty fascinating. [00:36:34] Speaker B: Well, let's get back to this list. And I picked a guy here that it might be a little controversial here just because I feel like, you know, he's playing now, and I feel like. I know he's. I know, I know maybe the pitching might be a part of this, but obviously I'm just going off the hitting just because this guy is the freak athlete. I got to put this guy Ohtani on here because, yeah, it's almost like Babe Ruth in our lifetime. Like, what are we doing here? [00:36:52] Speaker A: Great call. I didn't know if he was eligible or not, but I'm glad you put him on because he's a fun dude to talk about. [00:36:58] Speaker B: It's just unbelievable that there is somebody that is doing what this guy is doing. And. And it's a funny thing because, again, not being a big baseball fan, I'm trying to equate this to something in football or another sport where it's like, I'm almost like, the guy gets paid more money than I think we could ever imagine a human being making in a lifetime for playing a sport. [00:37:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:22] Speaker B: But at the same time, I keep thinking to myself, is he getting the recognition he does, or are we appreciating him enough? Do you know what I'm saying? Like, it's almost like a. Like. Like a. I'm like, split down the middle with that. I'm like, this guy making all this dough. Then I'm like, do you see what this guy is doing? You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like that kind of thing. I'm not describing. [00:37:38] Speaker A: And he's such a, like, fun guy to like, you know, I mean, it's just, he seems like he's just a fun, humble, classy guy. Like, I respect that. In this day and age of sports and, and, you know, personalities and branding, you know, seeing somebody like that is just, it's a breath of fresh air. You know, even if he annihilates the Mets and every time, you know, he plays, he just kills everybody, you know, it's. No, he's cool. Shohei's got to be on there. That's a great call. Like I said, I think in my head I eliminated him immediately because of the pitching thing. [00:38:09] Speaker B: Right. [00:38:09] Speaker A: Almost like he deserves his own podcast, talk about this guy. But no, that. That's a good one. That's a good one. I saw it up close. Last year's World Series or last year's the year before, whenever he just. [00:38:23] Speaker B: They beat the. Didn't they beat the Yankees in the World Series? [00:38:25] Speaker A: I think that's what it was. Yeah, again, folks, but I was going to. [00:38:28] Speaker B: Last year, I was thinking it was year before, I think, right? [00:38:29] Speaker A: I think it was a year before. Yeah, I think it was. Yeah. So it was fun watching him do that. I was rooting for the Yankees for, you know, my mother in law and, you know, people like the fans around because again, I'm not as die Hard as I used to be. And folks, let me tell you. Yeah, as a Met fan not living in New York City proper, I never hated the Yankees. Like, I just didn't. I never got that. I think if you lived in the city hating the Yankees, as a Met fan, and vice versa would be a lot easier. I never understood that if you lived outside the city. I don't. I kind of like the Yankees. I'd be rooting for him if the Mets were out of it. I hated the Braves, I hate the Phillies, that kind of thing. I never hated the Nationals. I hated Bryce Harper. Like, I never, I never, I never hated, never hated the Yankees. So. Point being, I would think I was pulling for him. And then every time frickin Ohtani got up, it was like, jesus Christ, this guy doesn't stop, you know? So. [00:39:16] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, amazing player. Yeah, no doubt. I felt like it was like one of those things where I'm like, you know what? This guy's kind of a freak. And it's in our time right now. And I'm like, you know, and I'm thinking about trying to think of best players I've seen and, you know, I mean, Again, not watching a lot of baseball. You know, the highlights I've seen of this guy, it's, you know, and that, that he's doing what he's doing. So it's. I gotta, Gotta put him on there. So I put him number four because I wanted to mention some other guys that I remember really watching a lot of. But. Yeah, that's where I are. [00:39:41] Speaker A: It's a great call. It's a great call because one, it lets us talk about different players, like the way of different lists. We're coming at it from different angles. So I like to work. You know, we're probably gonna have. I mean, you mentioned you have a med on there, so we might have one together. But I, I like that we have, you know, we're gonna have at least eight or nine different players we're gonna talk about. Yeah, and. Yeah, and it's good. And I'll tell you what, like, he might be the best player in the game right now. I mean, again, you know, I'm no baseball expert. I know there's a lot of young players who I just haven't followed. [00:40:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:08] Speaker A: You know, Akuna junior And players like that who. I just don't know where they sit right now. But I think you can make the argument that he's. He's top three for sure. And, and you mentioned Mattingly before, because he's not on my list. But I do want to mention Manningly because at one point, Dom Mattingly was the best player in baseball. Okay. A lot of people forget that. His prime was only five or six years. And he's not in the hall of Fame because of that. Okay. He just didn't put together enough good years. He was plagued by injury. But there was a time when Dom Mattingly was definitely the best player in the game. I mean, certainly the best first baseman in the game. But, you know, there's, like I said in the, in the, in the late 80s, early 90s, he was, he was, he was just fun to watch. Donnie. Baseball was just fun to watch. And you know, he did for power, too. That's what separated him from Wade Boggs and Tony Gwynn and other really great average hitters at the time. I should say batting average hitters at the time. You know, Tony Gwynn was him and dogs were usually hitting in the 330s and they were pretty incredible, but manly. You know, he's. He's there with his.319B average, slapped eight home runs in eight games as a record. Like, what. [00:41:14] Speaker B: What power. [00:41:15] Speaker A: What power hitter? What Non power hitter does that. You know what I mean? That's pretty incredible. He was clutch, man. He was just a gamer like. So shout out to Manly. Definitely one of my honorable mentions. I'll have a few more later. [00:41:27] Speaker B: But yeah, pisses me off too that he never got a chance to manage the Yankees. I'm still mad about managing the Phillies. Right. [00:41:34] Speaker A: It's insane. [00:41:34] Speaker B: I know it's insane. [00:41:36] Speaker A: But I'll tell you what. But again, the reason I bring it up is because my father. His criteria for hall of Fame hall of Fame players is they need to. Needed to have been at least the best player at their position at their time or the best player in the game at the time for at least a little while. You know what I mean? And when you. No offense to Dave Winfield or Kirby Puckett or, you know, Bagwell or BJ or any of these other players who are in the. In the world in the hall of Fame, but like, you never would have put them in the top five. Like, I don't think you would have put, you know, Winfield or Craig BGU in the top five in the game at any point. And they're in the hall of Fame. And I get it. And that's okay. But like, the idea that Manly, who I think ruled baseball for five years isn't in the hall of Fame is kind of a shame. And Kirby Puckett is. So. It is what it is. [00:42:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:24] Speaker A: So, yeah, shout out to Manly and other players like that. [00:42:28] Speaker B: I was just. It's a great point. I was gonna say just to correlate the football right now, Eli Manning is not in the hall of Fame and I believe I hate the Giants, but there's been the second year now they passed on him. And I think it's a lot to do with the fact that he's never been. He never was the best player in his position. But you know, it's amazing that they don't overlook that. But meanwhile, I always say to myself now, you know, I don't ever got involved in this list, but I still will say to this day, the best person I ever saw to order football was Dan Marino. I mean, that guy to me, I'll never see anybody throw the ball like that guy. [00:42:57] Speaker A: Guy, you know, Spoiler for our quarterbacks list. They'd be. He made him. I want to just, you know. [00:43:01] Speaker B: But he never. He never won, you know, But Eli not only won, he beat Tom Brady twice and drove the team down the field in the Super Bowl. Like, I don't know how. [00:43:07] Speaker A: MVP twice. [00:43:08] Speaker B: Not in the hall of Fame MVP twice. [00:43:10] Speaker A: And one of the greatest throws of all time. One of the greatest plays of all time. [00:43:14] Speaker B: Two of the greatest throws. He made a throw in the other suit bowler on the sideline to that guy Manningham, I don't know if you remember wasn't. It was an insane pass. Yeah, but, but, but. And again, that's why going back to your mandolin point, I feel your dad is. It's a very interesting con to have there because like you said about Bagwell and some of those other guys and even Winfield, you never went like oh this, you know, but, but Magnum, like you said was. And I think that should mean something. You know, I mean I think especially for a certain couple of years, maybe not 10 years, but like you said for a lot of Earl Campbell's in the hall of Fame, he was the best running back in football for like what, three or four years. You know what I mean? You know, what are we doing here? Yeah, well, I know it's a different game, but I don't know different criteria. Right. [00:43:54] Speaker A: Like I know with hall of Fame baseball, like it's a lot of time, it's milestones. So I get why players like Winfield and you know, players that sneak up on you like with these stats that you don't even realize they had as many hits as they did. [00:44:04] Speaker B: Right. [00:44:04] Speaker A: Like, yeah, like I may be overlooking like the big hurt like Frank Thomas, but looking at his stats to just research this a little bit, I was pretty impressed that he had. The stats were. I think I knew he hit 500 home runs, but he had a pretty impressive career. You know, it's one of those players that like, you know, you know, it reminds me of. There's a great football comparison. For me being a non die hard football fan. Larry Fitzgerald to me is someone I didn't hear of until he was already considered a Hall of Fame. You know, I mean like I was like who the is this guy? Why is everybody talking about him like he's the second coming? And then I was like, holy. He quietly to me, quietly, yes. You know, became one of the best all time, you know, wide receivers. I couldn't believe it. [00:44:44] Speaker B: I was like, yes, it just kind [00:44:46] Speaker A: of snuck up on you, you know, not. He's not a compiler. It's just. [00:44:49] Speaker B: He's right. [00:44:50] Speaker A: He's just that good. He just kind of flew under the radar. Very strange. [00:44:52] Speaker B: Yeah, no, you're right. I think a lot of it has to do with like again, he's in Arizona. It's a team that no one really gives a fuck about, you know, compared to some of the other markets. [00:45:00] Speaker A: Lucky slash curse to be in the New York market for some of these sports things, you know what I mean? Because it's. It's, you know, we. We idolize our own players, but we still hear about all the other players because we're just that much more into sports in this area, maybe. Who the hell knows? [00:45:13] Speaker B: Yeah, certainly. Than some other spots. Yeah, I mean, there's other spots that are right there with us, I think, but there's a. You know. Yeah, I mean, you know. [00:45:18] Speaker A: All right, you ready to keep this train rolling or what? [00:45:21] Speaker B: Let's do it. [00:45:21] Speaker A: All right, number three for me. Let's go, Mets, baby. We got Mike Piazza, number three. All right. [00:45:27] Speaker B: Wow. Nice. [00:45:27] Speaker A: Well, I gotta tell you, so, you know, at first I didn't think about any Mets, because in my head I'm like, yeah, if it ain't Tom Seaver. I got nothing to say, you know what I mean? Now, I. Don't get me wrong, like the 2000s, I love David Wright. I loved Jose reyes in the 80s. I loved Daryl Strawberry, Gary Carter, Keith Hernandez. Like, you know, I have so many Mets that I loved, but I don't think any of them are top five that I've seen in my life. But then I thought about Piazza. I was like, holy shit. I. We got to watch, I think, pretty hands down, the best hitting catcher of all time in baseball history. I think I could say that with a surety. The best hitting catcher, of course, he was nowhere near the best catcher, but the best hitting catcher in the history of baseball. I think that's pretty impressive. And we got to watch him. Watch him play, and I got to watch him play day in and day out for a good, you know, six, seven years. So that was pretty exciting. [00:46:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:16] Speaker A: You notice here's a catcher with a.308 lifetime batting average, where I think is pretty impressive. And that came down drastically in the last three or four years of his career. He had a lifetime batting average in the 320s total his last couple years with the Mets and a couple years with the Padres there. But that being said, you know, 427 home runs, most home runs as a catcher in history. 399 of those home runs were when he was actually a catcher position player, which I think is also impressive. You know, this was all done without a dh, you know what I mean? He played every day, you know, no DH in the National League, you know, certainly not when he left the Mets in 2005. I don't think the DH came in until what, like, what, seven, eight years ago, something like that. Certainly wasn't when Piazza was playing. [00:47:03] Speaker B: You got me there. Yeah, definitely not. [00:47:05] Speaker A: Certainly wasn't Piazza's playing, so I think that's impressive. And yeah, there's a little bit of personal here. Not just because he's a Met, but, you know, one of the greatest home runs I ever watched was the. The 911 home run. [00:47:18] Speaker B: You know, I remember watching that myself. [00:47:20] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I wish to God I was there live. That would have been great. I wish to God my head wasn't in the same crazy space as everybody else's was, you know, at the time, you know, but that was, what, a couple weeks after 9 11, maybe 10 days after 9 11, something like that. And it was. It was insane. Good. [00:47:38] Speaker B: I gotta tell you, I was. I happened to be. I can't try to remember now if I did it. I was doing an. Either an open mic or if I just went to see a show at Caroline's Comedy Club in the City and everybody in the place was around the bar watching that at bat. It seemed like. And it was like. I think it was because of the time again. Right. Kind of. Right. A couple of weeks yet, whatever it was, after 911 and when. That you would think they won the World Series with that hit. I'll. I will. It's like, remember where you were. I will never forget that. You're right. That was such an emotional home run for the whole city. [00:48:09] Speaker A: Really was probably the most important non baseball home run of all time. [00:48:12] Speaker B: You know, maybe non World Series. Yeah. [00:48:16] Speaker A: Again, you know, I mean, just non. No, no, I mean, non sports related home run. You know what I mean? [00:48:22] Speaker B: Like, gotcha. Gotcha. [00:48:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Where sports sort of transcends, you know, just being a sport. One of those. One of those up there. I mean, it gives me goosebumps. Still to this day. And I tell you what, I always think about it. Always think about, you know, my love hate relationship with Mike. Francesa. [00:48:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:39] Speaker A: As I look at a picture of him, angel met him and got his autograph signed to me. Very cool. I got it on my wall here. Mike and Mad. What can I say? I love him, but Francesca could be a fucking douchebag sometimes. But the way he talks about Piazza's home run with such reverence. [00:48:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:54] Speaker A: He, you know, he says it's one of the greatest things ever experienced live. He said to be there. It was just. It was absolutely insane. He's like, he's like, you can't describe Unless you were there, you can't describe the feeling. And I totally get it. That's one of those. That's almost. That's almost like the miracle on ice. Not achievement wise, but, like, to experience that live must have been fucking insane. Just insane. [00:49:18] Speaker B: You know, the only other thing I could think of like that. I'll never forget watching it on tv. I was working at the time at a bar in Wayne, New Jersey. And when the Saints played at home against the Atlanta Falcons, their first game back in a Superdome after Katrina, and I remember them, they mauled that team. And the energy in the building, like you said, to have been in that building, if anybody that did that, what an experience that must make. It was almost like you knew they were going to steamroll over that. The emotion, like I said, it was just more than the game. The whole thing was really unbelievable. That's the only thing I could think of where. That. I'm trying to remember if they blocked the punt, if there was a specific play that. That made me think of. But there was nothing like that one home run specifically. But it was more like the whole atmosphere of the game itself. The only thing I could think of that can relate to the Piazza thing, but again, the Piazza especially, because we're here. What an emotional thing. No, no question. [00:50:09] Speaker A: And I'll tell you what. You know the late Bobby Cox, you know, the manager of the Braves at the time, a longtime manager of the Braves. So I remember him, you know, I totally misquote, but I remember him saying after the game was like, the only game of his entire life that he didn't mind losing. You know what I mean? Like, it was one of those things where it's like everyone was fine watching the players come out and hug before the game started. It was just. It was such a weird, weird time. Like, if you. If you weren't old enough to experience it. I tell my daughter all the time, I try to try to explain to her how weird it was living through those, you know, three or four months, you know, our heads will never be in that space again. It was just so bizarre. Like nothing mattered and everything mattered. It was. It was just so strange. And if you're listening, you know what I'm talking about. I'm not gonna go on, but, like, yeah, so that was an awesome home run, and I had to have a med on here. I'm so glad Piazza's good enough. But, yeah, like I said, best hitting catcher in baseball history. And that's saying a lot. So we got to watch him do that. So, boom. Number three, Mike Piazza. [00:51:06] Speaker B: And you know, it's funny that actually, ironically, we're recording this on September 10th here with tomorrow being 25 years, which is great. [00:51:13] Speaker A: That's a great call. I didn't realize we're three hours away from it being September 11th. 11th. Interesting. [00:51:17] Speaker B: Unbelievable. Well, I'm gonna go to number three here now. This is another one that's a little bit back in the day here. But I always thought this guy was the coolest baseball player when I was a kid. And I'm giving my spot here. I gotta go to Ricky Henderson, man. [00:51:32] Speaker A: You know, I, I, he, he's one of my honorable mentions. [00:51:34] Speaker B: I, I'll tell you right now, this guy I thought was the coolest. First of all, it kind of reminds you of Major League with Willie Mays Hayes. What is that? What is cooler than a guy that could just steal the bases, like this fucking guy could do, you know, Especially when you, who doesn't love speed when you watch the game. [00:51:50] Speaker A: So true. Like, you know, so true. [00:51:52] Speaker B: It's so exciting. It's almost like we talk about Jimmy fly snooker. We're doing the rest of things. Like, there was an excitement to Ricky Henderson that I don't know. And it was something about the guy. We're like, again, I remember his stance. You remember the way he ran. I was like, this guy was born to play baseball. This guy was like, what if? And he played a long time. And again, I think of him as a Yankee, but I know he bounced around like a motherfucker, you know, but, but what an athlete. What a, what an exciting player. I had to put him on the [00:52:16] Speaker A: list, no question about it. And, you know, I know he's arguably one of the best leadoff hitters of all time. [00:52:21] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [00:52:22] Speaker A: Arguably. Again, folks, I'm not a baseball expert, so don't, you know, come at me if you want. Here's why he didn't make my five. He, he was, he probably would have been number five, honestly, if he wasn't such a douchebag on the Mets. [00:52:34] Speaker B: Oh, so he said now, that I didn't know. I didn't realize. I didn't even know he played for the Mets. So this shows you he did. [00:52:38] Speaker A: And he dogged it. You know, he's one of those players who, like, he wouldn't run it out ironically. Right? This guy who stole more bases to hear that. [00:52:45] Speaker B: I didn't know that. [00:52:46] Speaker A: He's also got more total bases than anyone in baseball history. Do you know that? Not just stolen bases. [00:52:50] Speaker B: Wow. [00:52:50] Speaker A: He's got, he's got, he's got the record for most total base. It looks like 2600 total bases. Insane. Anyway, yeah, I mean you got to respect the guys skill for sure. And yeah, I love Ricky Henderson growing up too because like you said, he gets on first. It's like, holy, it's gonna happen. You know what I mean? [00:53:08] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:53:09] Speaker A: It's on a much, much, much smaller scale. It's what we have with Jose Reyes for a little while with the Mets, you know what I mean? [00:53:15] Speaker B: And ironically enough, wasn't he another guy or maybe I'm misremembering this. Wasn't he a guy that didn't run out a lot of times or am I missing. Maybe he did. [00:53:21] Speaker A: I don't think so. I feel like, okay, I feel like Reyes ran, ran it out. I think really Ray has left it on the field most of the time. A couple times I think he got a little flack for it. But for the most part he was, he was good like that. [00:53:31] Speaker B: You know what I'm trying to think if there was somebody from that era that maybe I'm confused with and maybe it's. Then it's got to be someone on the Yankees and maybe it was Canoe. Was Robinson Canoe? [00:53:39] Speaker A: Yeah, he did get some flack for that. [00:53:40] Speaker B: Okay. [00:53:41] Speaker A: 100. [00:53:41] Speaker B: I couldn't remember. I figured it was one of them. [00:53:43] Speaker A: Even when he got traded to I want to say the Mariners, he was that followed him there. So you're dead right, Shane, because he was such a great player. [00:53:50] Speaker B: For some reason I thought it was Reyes at first. Okay. [00:53:52] Speaker A: You know, if players don't care about legacy, that's fine. That's totally up to them. But I mean, how do these people not know that that's how they're going to be judged? You know what I mean? Like, I don't get it. Like, like, you know, he would have. Not that his whole reason for his baseball career was to make my top five, but I mean he definitely would have, you know what I mean? Like, because he's clearly one of the best players I've ever watched play and [00:54:13] Speaker B: it's sad to hear that I did not know that about him. And it's funny because you think about [00:54:16] Speaker A: somebody, it might have just been with the Mets, I'm not sure. [00:54:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess you just think about them being so good. Was you just. And that's why I could see you taking a personal tour. It's like why the. You do it here but everywhere else you do it. You can't do it here, that's the [00:54:29] Speaker A: Mets head story, right? [00:54:31] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. [00:54:32] Speaker A: But I think, I think he might have done on the Yankees. I think my father didn't like him because of that reason. Like he, you know, father hated players who didn't run it out, hated players who dogged it. He hated those types of players. And he, he hated Ricky before he even came to the Mets. So I would venture to guess that he was like that maybe in the second half of his career. [00:54:50] Speaker B: But whatever, you know, I think there might be something to that because I feel like again, not, not as we, as we talk about these things with these guys that are, you know, associated with the team. Like we mentioned a few times, like, you know, this guy was, you know, Reggie and Winfield, were they with this team and that team for Henderson bouncing around as much as he did. I don't remember having conversations with Yankee fans or anybody like whenever they think about the great Yankees or, you know, he's not a name that really comes up a lot as Henderson and maybe I wonder if that's the reason why, aside from the fact that he did bounce around, you know, you never hear him mentioned with any of the. And meanwhile, this guy's a no doubt hall of Famer all time. Like you said, stolen base guy, total base guy. But he's never, you know, you'll mention 25 Yankees maybe before you mention him. I don't know. Am I missing? [00:55:37] Speaker A: No, you're not. I'd say 35 Yankees, but like, still, you're dead right. Like, he's still one of the best players we've ever seen. He's still, he's the best base dealer of all time, which is, which is awesome. And yeah, he was exciting to watch. It's, you know, it is what it is. I mean, you know, it's like, you know, he, he did what he did and if he's playing for himself, hey, play for yourself, man. More power to you. Just, just doesn't fit what I think is, you know, top five, but it's a great pick. He's undeniably one of the best baseball players of all time. So, you know, there you go. I'd say anybody who leads in any category all time. [00:56:08] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:56:09] Speaker A: It's got to be like royalty, especially [00:56:11] Speaker B: the game's been around for 100 and whatever the 50 years. [00:56:13] Speaker A: Right. That's what I mean. So it's like any, you know, and he's got more bases stolen than anybody who's ever played the goddamn game. So kudos to him for sure. [00:56:21] Speaker B: Impressive yeah, yeah. All right, man, it's a nitty gritty here. Let's do it. [00:56:25] Speaker A: Let's do it. Number two. So. God damn it. I'm not saying God damn it because I don't want this person on my list because I love this goddamn player, but it's another Yankee. That's the only thing I have negative say about the captain, Derek Jeter. Look. [00:56:38] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, look. [00:56:39] Speaker A: And a lot of people are listening to this right now and you're like, cheater. Like, what is it about this guy that these assholes in the New York area love so much, right? He's not one of the best players of all time. I'm sure they're yelling. Anyone listening to this pod is probably like, fucking Derek Cheater. Are you kidding me? But listen, man, you watch him, you know, day in and day out, you, you watch him and you tell me he's not one of the best players who's ever played the game, right? With Jeter, there are intangibles. And, and I, I know people said that all the time and it's like, oh, Jeter is, there's X factors you got to consider. But there was, man, this guy, he, he just raised everyone else around him. He was the definition of a captain, man. But you know what? People forget that. People forget that the man batted 310 lifetime and he had 3400 hits. That's what people forget. It's not just about fucking, you know, him winning World Series and being this consummate, sort of classy, you know, guy who did everything the right way and, you know, respected the game and was a great ambassador for baseball and the Yankees and New York. The man could fucking play, right? Right? [00:57:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Not only that question about that. [00:57:43] Speaker A: I mean, look again, watching him day in and day out, everyone's seen like, you know, like the play, right? Which by the way, is still one of the most heads up things in sports I've ever seen. You know what? Talk about where he, of course, yeah, yeah, of course. [00:57:58] Speaker B: It's, it's one of those plays. I got to be honest, I feel like it's talked about so much that I'm like, kind of like, you know, now. To me, it's overrated now, but, but, but, but I, but I understand. [00:58:06] Speaker A: That's all right. [00:58:07] Speaker B: It's a matter of, it's an unbelievable player. I, I, I, I, I think if people didn't talk about it so much, I, I, that's why I'm saying that. But yes, if you're a sports fan, you Saw it, you had to be like, holy, that was an amazing place. [00:58:19] Speaker A: Athleticism, just the mental wherewithal to do that, you know what I mean? It wasn't an athletic feat. It was a great mental feat from a guy who just wanted to win every night, no matter what. This guy would dive into the stands face first. He didn't care. You know why? Because it was the fucking Red Sox. So while Nomar Garcia Powers sitting himself out like a fucking pussy during that five game, that five game series with the Yankees in 2003, here's Jeter diving headfirst into the stands. Man, you could not have had a more, you know, sort of contrasting player who wants to win, player who doesn't really give a shit about winning. Yeah, postseason. He was just clutch, man. Like, you know, yeah, this guy won five rings. Like, you know, he's, he's classy as from start to finish, man. His last at bat was a walk off hit like, like the man did everything right. He was insanely fun to watch. He was insanely fun to respect and want to appreciate because he was just that kind of classy dude. In the era of steroids, at least he didn't get caught. I don't know. But in the era, steroids that stink never touched him, even though it touched a lot of his teammates. You know, between Andy Pettit and A Rod and all these other players that got hit with that shit never touched him. It was a pleasure watching Derek Jeter play baseball in this area. It just was. And you know, come at me if you want, but if you didn't see him play as often, you know, day in and day out, then you were missing something really special. [00:59:49] Speaker B: You know, it's, there's no Quake question about it. That's just a great pick, you know, and it's funny because I agree with you. There's so many, again, die hard baseball fans or people that really love the game, they're like, you know, they're tired of hearing about Jeter because he's not one of the best players of all time. Like, he's not, he's not the, the super maniac, you know, he's not Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle. He's not one of them guys, you know what I mean? But like you said, I think that's what it is that made it an appreciation. It's like the lunch pail, you know. You know, it kind of reminds me like living in this area too, with it, like about the Giants, like Lawrence Taylor was, was, was a freak. But you had someone Like Harry Carson, who. I equate to that, where he was. He was the guy that made. So he made the technique, the tackles. You know, he. He was. It was. He was there every day. The lunch pail guy. He's going to make. And he was great, great. He's a Hall of Famer, but he's not lt, you know, and, And. And Derek Jeter, like you said, he did it for 20 years in New York. I mean, what. What. And like you said, it wasn't like this was some schlep that the team was carrying along. Like, this guy, he. He bought his fucking bag to the game and he. And he earned his. [01:00:48] Speaker A: He. [01:00:49] Speaker B: He was. He deserved to be there. He deserved to be the captain. Like you said, also, what a guy to respect. Like, everything was done in such a right way. There was no controversy. It wasn't. You know, there was no. He's gonna be suspended for doing this. He doesn't punching women. He wasn't doing any of that. [01:01:04] Speaker A: It's sad that we see that as, like, something to admire, but it's very true in sports. It just is. And you're dead, right? [01:01:11] Speaker B: Yeah. So I remember, like, the Chris Rock stand, you know, people getting respect for. They're supposed to do. You know, you're supposed to be that [01:01:18] Speaker A: way, supposed to go to jail. [01:01:20] Speaker B: But. But. But I do think that the other thing, too, is that he. He never. I will say this. You. You brought up a whole nother conversation I want to have about this whole thing, because you brought up with the whole pack. Like, he did this thing. He had the Red Sox. Like, there was this. There's something about sports. There's like, obviously you have the impression on the children, so you want it to be gamesmanship and you want it to be respect and all sorts of stuff. And also, there's too many people fighting in the fan, in the stands, which is an annoying thing. I would wish. I wish that was more of a fun thing. But I do want more animalistic and anger and in these interviews. And I like, you know, I want to hear, like, I want to hear Derek Jeter get up there. I mean, Jeter's not going to do this guy in the Angus. He goes up and goes, I want to bury the Red Sox 20 to nothing. And I don't, you know, I want to hear talking. I want that. [01:02:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:05] Speaker B: And not the sports interviews. And, like, who didn't love watching parcels blow up? And somebody's. [01:02:10] Speaker A: Guys, that's what you want. [01:02:12] Speaker B: Like wwe, Jeff. That's what Matt was talking about we had a monster. That's what you want to see? [01:02:15] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:02:16] Speaker B: I want to see some nonsense. What are you doing here? [01:02:19] Speaker A: You know, that would excite people, man. That'd be, that'd be fucking fun. [01:02:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, you know, like, I don't want to hear, like, we hate, like, I'm a Yankee fan. I hate the fucking Red Sox. I don't want to know. Again, I thought David Ortiz was amazing. Manny Ramirez, some of these guys. Again, I don't know about the, the, the, the steroids, but with them, I don't think Ortiz was ever associated with that. I think Manny was right. [01:02:36] Speaker A: Yeah, man, he was. I don't, I don't know. Fortitude. But. Yeah, yeah, man, he definitely was. [01:02:40] Speaker B: But, but, but, you know, I, I, they're, they're great players and everything, but I'm like, I'm not gonna put a red sock on a list because I have no, you know, and I felt like I wouldn't do that if I. But I guess I didn't watch them enough because I hated them. You know what I mean? You know? But I don't have the same hatred for them as I do against, like, the Eagles or the Giants, right? But I still know that Eli deserves to be in the hall, you know what I'm saying? Like, I have that respect, but, but at the end of the day, in my mind, I'm like, eli, you know what I mean? What are we doing here? You know, like, that's the sports fan, [01:03:05] Speaker A: like, right now, dead, right? And I'll tell you what, it's like, it's like even, like, I mentioned my hatred of, like, the Braves and the Phillies, right? Like, like, that doesn't mean that, like, you gotta hate every player on every team, you know, Every player on that, on every Phillies team, Right? You know what I mean? Like, like, I, you know, I couldn't stand Jimmy Rollins or Chase Utley, but I. I liked watching Ryan Howard. I liked watching Shane Victorino. I liked watching a lot of those Phillies from that era. I mean, they were just good players. They didn't come out and say the Mets sucked. They didn't slide tackle one of our second basemen into the hospital, you know, so, like, like, if they don't, you know, punch you right in the face, you can still respect the guy, you know? I mean, you can still respect him. I loved, you know, Brian Leach and Mike Gardner, you know what I mean? Those are probably my two favorite Rangers of all time. And, you know, you know, Gartner wasn't always a Ranger, blah, blah, blah. But I also, about Brian Leach. [01:03:48] Speaker B: The point is, who does like Brian Leach? I'm totally with you. [01:03:51] Speaker A: The point is, you could be a Devils fan and still appreciate the Rangers. You could be a Mets fan, still appreciate the Braves. It's just the way it is, you know, and. And it largely speaks to your values. Like I said, if I, if I admire someone who's classy and just goes about their business and does that, well, that's. I mean, that's Brian Leach. Right. He's not a flashy player. He's just one of the best offensive defensemen, you know, of that era. And. [01:04:11] Speaker B: Right. [01:04:11] Speaker A: It was just fun to watch him do that because that's what I valued. So. Yeah. [01:04:15] Speaker B: All right. [01:04:15] Speaker A: What you down to? 2 for you. What do you got? What's your number two? [01:04:18] Speaker B: Well, number two is. I. I have a feeling we're going to be talking about him. My lead right into your thing here, [01:04:25] Speaker A: but I. I don't think so. [01:04:26] Speaker B: Okay. Who just said pools? [01:04:28] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Okay. [01:04:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:30] Speaker A: Okay. Yep. [01:04:31] Speaker B: I got. I gotta put him on there, you know, only because this guy, again, another one of these guys that now, again, maybe a little different than Jeter. He. He played a long time, but this guy was unquestionably someone that you would watch and go, this guy is one of the best I've ever seen, dude. There's no question about that. And obviously there's a personal thing because we remember watching him playing that Maniac game that the Mets won there, where the guy was just phenomenal. That, that was all. We'll never forget that. [01:04:57] Speaker A: But two home runs, six rbi, it's unbelievable. This guy won series. [01:05:01] Speaker B: Sorry. Wow. Now he won World Series with. With just the Cardinals, right? Or did he win it with someone else? [01:05:07] Speaker A: No, just two with the Cardinals. That's it. [01:05:09] Speaker B: Two with the Cardinals. [01:05:10] Speaker A: Yep. 06 and 2011. [01:05:13] Speaker B: Okay. [01:05:13] Speaker A: Okay. And. [01:05:15] Speaker B: And he's. He's just one of those people that. Now, again, I don't know what you would say about best player in the game, but, I mean, he, he was up there for quite a few years. Am I not mist. [01:05:25] Speaker A: I mean. Right. No question. No doubt about it. [01:05:28] Speaker B: And again, one of these guys that, you know, it's funny, I think about, for some reason, him and David Ortiz would be the two guys, I would think off the top of my head from that, somewhat around that time frame and go, I never heard anything about them guys with the steroids. Am I misremembering that or. [01:05:45] Speaker A: I don't think so. I mean, Ortiz, something in the back of my head is saying maybe, but I don't think so. Definitely not pool. I don't remember hearing anything about pool holes. And again, I'm not. Again, I'm not the biggest baseball fan in the world, but like, nah, like, you know, when he was putting out those numbers, I think everyone was like, this guy's got to be juicing. And I don't think anything ever came out. No, I don't think so. [01:06:05] Speaker B: But. But I think that again, being someone outside the die hard fan, being a casual sports fan, you knew that this guy was the. You know what I mean? Am I. You know. You know what I'm talking about? [01:06:16] Speaker A: I think so. [01:06:17] Speaker B: Another guy with a lot of class. You know, he never, never was involved in any. He just did everything the right way. And like you said, he was like, I'm happy that he got the chance to see this guy in my lifetime kind of thing, you know, 100 had a P. How to put him on a list. I know it's not a Yankee or Met. What are we gonna do? You know? [01:06:34] Speaker A: So you pretty much nailed it. So he's my number one. I figured, look, you know, his, I mean, his, his run in the 2000s was just fucking insane. Like, it was, it was, it was insane. He was a machine. Like, he would just, he would just turn out these numbers. First, let's, let's talk about 296 lifetime batting average. But that, you know, again, was. Was marred by like shitty seasons towards the end there. But he, he was only the third person at the time to get to 700 home runs, which I think people overlook. Man. He's in the same category. Once he hits 700, he's in there with Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron. I mean, just those three, right? Like, that's insane. Yeah, I know that. Who's the fourth Now? I know we talked about him earlier before Bonds. [01:07:21] Speaker B: Aaron. [01:07:21] Speaker A: Oh, Bonds. Bonds, of course. Yeah, Bonds actually got in there, of course. [01:07:24] Speaker B: But like, please. [01:07:26] Speaker A: But at the time, yeah. So he's is in this elite club with fucking Ruth and Aaron. The man had almost 3,400 hits. So listen to this. I broke down his just 2000s stats. Okay? [01:07:38] Speaker B: Right. [01:07:38] Speaker A: So in the, in the 2000s he batted.331. Now this is 10 years, 10 full years. He batted 331, hit 366 home runs, had 1,100 RBIs, three MVPs, nine All Stars, just in the 2000s. And yeah, he rocked our world in one of the greatest baseball games. I've ever seen. So I mean here's, here's what I really thought we'd be talking about. I thought he was going to be the guy to win the Triple Crown. I did. I thought he was going to be the first one since. Who's the last one in the Triple Crown after Mantle, but Ted Williams. Ted Williams. So I thought. No, no, Williams bad at 400. It doesn't matter. Whatever, whatever. But we hadn't had a Triple Crown winner in like 40 years. [01:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:25] Speaker A: Until Miguel Cabrera. Right. Did it, I don't know, 15 years ago. Something I can't remember when. [01:08:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I was trying to remember what I knew. I knew what happened since, since, you know, that long stretch of time. I just didn't remember who it was. Yeah. [01:08:38] Speaker A: But here's a guy who won a batting title at one year. He won an RBI title, another tier. And he won a couple home run titles. So I mean he had all the prerequisite, you know, skills. He just didn't put it together in one magical year. But he was just a stats machine. I remember looking at his, I remember going to mlb.com and just marveling at how consistent he was in those 2000s. Like it was non stop. Yeah, it's just. Yeah, he was, he was, he was probably the best player I've. I've seen play on a regular basis. You know what I mean? Yeah, just, just incredible. And I, I don't think he gets talked about enough. Like, I don't think he. [01:09:13] Speaker B: No, I, you're right. That's a great point. I mean we talked about Ohtani. This guy's another one of those guys. 100%. No doubt. [01:09:18] Speaker A: I think so. I mean just, just those big ass numbers he put up, you know, led his team through a couple words. It was, it was a great Cardinals team in that whole era. Like it was just fun to watch him day. And it wasn't fun to watch him play the Mets, but it was fun to watch him day in and day out. [01:09:31] Speaker B: Out. [01:09:31] Speaker A: Oddly enough, I don't remember him being a met Killer. Like I do, you know, Chipper Jones or you know, Jeter or any of these other like, I mean Jeter in the World Series I'm talking about. But like, you know, there were some players who were just met killers, you know, they just, they got up to bat. You know, you were like, oh, God damn it. You know, who's the guy for? I mean, you know, Freddie Freeman, obviously and Chipper Jones. But like there was Jim Edmonds maybe like there was one other guy who was just so good against the match. I don't remember Pujols being that, but you still were shaking in your boots when he was at bat. Just all timer, just, just, I mean, 703 home runs, it's, it's, you know, that's such an exclusive club. In the 150 years of baseball, there's four players have hit 700 home runs. It's just, it's insane. It's insane. That's a great call, having a number. I'm really curious what your number one is, but. [01:10:21] Speaker B: Well, it's funny because you think about it like that's one of those things. If you went to the bar and ask 10, 10 guys, Babe Ruth, you heard of, you know, Hank, you've heard of, and who was it? What else is number? [01:10:36] Speaker A: Barry Bonds, for better or worse. Everybody's heard of him. Even for bad reasons. [01:10:39] Speaker B: And, and pools. I, I'm sure that you probably would get 10 out of 10, but if I had to pick one of those four guys that you get nine or eight out of 10, it probably would be Paul's, which is crazy to me. [01:10:49] Speaker A: Sure. [01:10:49] Speaker B: Am I, you know what I'm saying? [01:10:50] Speaker A: Sure. It's almost like, you know, if you didn't again, because we mentioned he's not really talked about in the same categories with the all time, all time greats, but like if you were watching baseball in the 2000s or the early 2010s, like you could not, not talk about Everett Pujolz. Like it was just insane. And again, his consistency, his consistency was in a game prided on stats and consistency. You know, they always say, oh, you know, this guy bats this every year. He'll get there. Eventually the averages will average out. They all, they don't all the time. But this guy for like, you know, a good 11 years was just a machine.300 batting average, you know, 40 home runs. It was, it was insane. 100 RBI every year. [01:11:32] Speaker B: Good way to put it. I think I, now, because my two bled into your one, we didn't get a chance to do some honorable mentions here, so I'll kick that off and I'll let you go after me. I was gonna say, I, obviously Jeter was one of mine. I had to say that. But, and, and Mattingly, who we touched on. [01:11:48] Speaker A: But [01:11:50] Speaker B: there's two guys I gotta mention. One of them is going to be a little controversial. I have to say it just because I think it's hilarious. You know, I'm gonna give a rod an honorable mention. I, I, I, the, the reason why I'M saying this is because I know the guys. He's controversial. All these steroid guys are. You know. And was he an. And a jerk off? Yes. 100 was I told. I totally agree with that. [01:12:11] Speaker A: That. [01:12:12] Speaker B: But you know what it was to me there was just something about his. And again maybe this is about a whole other conversation but there was something about his stance that I thought this guy had the best stance in baseball because I thought the way he stood at the plate was he just. The only intention he had was to hit a home run. He stood there like I'm gonna hit this ball farther than anybody else and I don't give a fuck what anybody says about me. You know, like there was something about the arrogance with this stance. Like I don't know how to describe it. He has a charm. I understand how people can fall for it because I think he does have a chart. But. But at the end of the day is he is a jerk off in a lot of ways as well. And you know, so I don't know how to describe it. It's like a love hate thing with that. I guess we all have. He's not, he's not no Yankee fan. Takes him as one of our own. We know that. But, but, but he did without him when I went in that World Series in 2009. I will say that no question we're doing here. Yeah. You redeemed. Even though I love Matsui. Matsui is one of my favorite Yankees. [01:13:03] Speaker A: I love Medaki Natsui. Yeah. Glad he won the World Series. The MVP that year. [01:13:07] Speaker B: Me too. But, but so there's something to him that I just. I, I as much as I want to hate on him, I, I'm fascinated by him this whole. Because again he was one of those guys like you talked about back in the Mariner days where that guy was just who the hell is this guy? You know, that kind of guy. [01:13:22] Speaker A: And look, that's the tragedy of these steroid players, right? Like Barry Bonds is a Hall of Famer minus steroids. Everyone's. We've talked about that for years. A Rod is a Hall of Famer without the steroids. Steroids like these didn't need this goddamn. Now look, it is what it is. I don't know anything about the insides of, you know what they went through and blah, blah, blah. So look, this was just a choice on my part. I'm not saying that a Rod isn't an all timer because he is. I'm not saying Bonds is and I'm not saying Maguire and Sosa didn't do more for the game in 1998 than the previous 20 years. So, like, yeah, you know, I'm not on the bad decisions. I just decided to make it not part of my list. But. But that being said. Yeah, you, I mean, you don't gotta apologize for having a rod on your. You know, this guy, the guy had 500 home runs by the time he was 29 years old. You know that? [01:14:06] Speaker B: No, I did not. I knew he was up there with [01:14:08] Speaker A: the total youngest player to hit 500 home runs. 29 years old. You imagine that? [01:14:15] Speaker B: Wow. [01:14:15] Speaker A: Yeah. He ended up with 600 something, which is again no small feat. He's got like 636 home runs or something like that. Like, it's, it's insane. [01:14:22] Speaker B: And, and I don't know how many games he missed with the suspension because of the stupid. He might have been higher. [01:14:27] Speaker A: Yeah, no, he would have been for sure. Yeah. So, I mean. Yeah, no, no, no shame there. Who else? You got any other honorable mentions? [01:14:33] Speaker B: One more. I had to put a met on here and the reason why is because I. There was one of these magical things when you were a kid in this area, you know, if you were a New York baseball fan in the 80s Yankee or Met, and you weren't taking a, you know, caught up in the excitement of the Doc and Daryl thing. I don't know if you have a pulse. Do you have a pulse? You know? [01:14:53] Speaker A: Right. [01:14:53] Speaker B: And to me there was like this magical thing when I was a kid that it seemed like whenever we flipped through the channels and if Strawberry was at the picture plate, this guy would hit a home run. I thought he was another guy that I thought was an exciting player and just a fun guy. And I know there was a lot of looney Tunes craziness that went on with that. [01:15:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:09] Speaker B: But I, I loved the guy when I was a kid. I thought the guy was phenomenal, so I had to put him. And again, he won the World Series with the Yankees, so he's like an all time New York player. But, but the, the biggest sin was that the Mets, they unfortunately, he went to the Dodgers there and that was a. I don't know whose fault that was, the Mets or him. But what a sin that that happened. Happened. [01:15:27] Speaker A: Then they both went to the goddamn Yankees. Doc pitched a no hitter with a [01:15:30] Speaker B: goddamn Yankees and they won World Series. [01:15:35] Speaker A: Daryl definitely. [01:15:36] Speaker B: Daryl definitely did. Wait, Darryl Strawberry one. [01:15:39] Speaker A: One with the Yankees? [01:15:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Or was it Doc? One of them won multiple World Series with him. I want to say at least two really, I'm telling you the truth. At least one of them. And I thought it was Daryl, but, but I, I might have to look that up. [01:15:51] Speaker A: Well, if one of them did, it had to be Daryl, because I don't think Doc was playing. And in, was he playing in? That's in 98. [01:15:58] Speaker B: I mean, I, if I had to put my mind. [01:16:01] Speaker A: Oh, the 96 team, maybe you mean the 96 team. Maybe one of them was on that team. My mistake. I didn't think either of them did. But we, we, we'll look that up. I'll take your, I'll take your word for that because I just don't know. No, look, I'm looking at my, my vintage strawberry jersey on my wall right now, like he was, like I said he was my favorite player growing up, so 100% there. He's one of my honorable mentions. See, you know, like I mentioned, I mentioned a couple players. Already mentioned them, but Wade Boggs was, you know, a great hitter when I was growing up. Tony Gwynn, clutch hitter growing up. We mentioned Mike Trout. Yeah, you know, again, I, I, I don't, I've never seen Mike Trout. I want it bat. I just haven't. On ESPN Highlights, maybe, maybe on Sports center, but I've never watched a game with my Trout. Again, it's the, he was on the, the a, the Angels or whatever. I'm a Met fan. We don't play the Angels, so it's like, is what it is. [01:16:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:54] Speaker A: Ichiro man, Ichiro Suzuki. [01:16:56] Speaker B: Another one. Good one. Yeah. [01:16:57] Speaker A: I mean, he almost made my list. He would have been like number six or seven. You know, you combine his Jap stats, he's got more hits than anybody in the history of the game, which is freaking impressive. He holds them MLB record for hits in a season, which is pretty incredible. [01:17:15] Speaker B: Wow. [01:17:16] Speaker A: And yeah, no, so, so he was great. Just, just, just fun players. Like I said, I mentioned some of my personal favorites, you know, Reyes and Wright and, you know, the Decorate era, you know, Hernandez and Carter with the mets in the 80s. But, you know, and you know, and I recognize, you know, other players that are good, but, you know, for whatever reason, they just didn't make my list. So. [01:17:37] Speaker B: Yeah, there you go. [01:17:39] Speaker A: It is what it is. [01:17:39] Speaker B: Wow. [01:17:40] Speaker A: All right, so I, I'm curious. I don't think I know what your number one is. [01:17:45] Speaker B: I know you don't. And you know why it's so funny? The reason why you don't, because it reminds me of the Robin Hood daffy one where I was overthinking it. And I couldn't come up with your number one because it had already been said. I gotta say. Ken Griffey Jr. Oh, nice. I gotta do it. [01:17:58] Speaker A: All right, cool, Cool. [01:18:00] Speaker B: The reason why is because it's funny that you brought up Mike Trout because it's a great comparison. Because again, when we were. At least when I was a kid, you know, it's amazing how much I was able to fit in with all this. I, you know, SportsCenter, not only did I watch Looney Tunes in the morning, we watched the Three Stooges in the morning before school, you know, but, but, but we'd also would bury a lot of sports. Sports center was like in its heyday when I was a kid, or at least in, you know, young, young, young grade school into high school kind of era. [01:18:29] Speaker A: Yeah. You'd wake up and find out what happened the night before. Yeah. [01:18:32] Speaker B: Yes. And you're watching highlights from players that you weren't seeing. If you did watch the game the night before, like, you know, if the Yankees and Mets aren't playing Seattle, we're not watching, Watching Griffey, you know what I'm saying? You know, or if it wasn't like in the Sunday night baseball game, whatever. But the. Mike Trout is a guy that, you know, if I was a kid now watching SportsCenter or, or least when he was in his prime there, he might have been on my list. You know what I'm saying? But all I remember that when I was a kid and they would still sports center on this guy was the biggest thing in baseball when I was a kid. There was nothing more exciting than watching the highlights. When this guy was gonna. Was. It was up there. And I do remember the injuries. I remember, you know, it kind of reminded me like a, you know, my brother was younger as an Islander fan, like, you know, that guy Pat LaFontaine. It always seemed like the guy was always hurting, you know, but when you saw highlights, you were like, wow, this guy's amazing. So it reminded me of that. But it's like, well, I do remember Griffey being just thrilling to watch and like you said, the home runs and he was just a great player and in the field and they would always have the highlights of him. Always seemed to stick out for me as a memory of being a kid. So I had to put him at number one. Just because I feel like if we're gonna say best players of all time, I feel like, I feel like if I said that any person that is a diehard baseball fan would at least respect that as an answer for number one, you know what I'm saying? [01:19:43] Speaker A: Totally. And think about this. At the time, right? When he's hitting all these home runs, he's. He's this young kid. At the time, only Babe ruth had hit 700 home runs. Right? Like, so, I mean, I'm sorry, Ruth and Aaron. Right. So at the time, it's like, I don't think anyone thought like another player would get to that. That. And then here comes Griffey Jr. And you're like, this guy's gonna. He's on pace. He's on pace. You're looking at the back of his baseball card. Like 53 home runs, 56 home runs. You have 49 home runs. You're like, holy, he's got a shot to catch Ruth, you know what I mean? Or Aaron, I should say. You know what I mean? So. And as a kid, that's exciting. You know, you're like, holy, we're gonna, we're watching one of the best players. Turns out we were, in my opinion. In your opinion, clearly he could have been top 10 all time baseball, you know what I mean? Like, for sure, if he had stayed healthy. [01:20:31] Speaker B: And, and if I'm not mistaken, I do think that, you know, go back to Mattingly, too. That's another one of these things that, that's like such a knife in the heart to all of us is that he retired in 95 and they won in 96. [01:20:43] Speaker A: What a shame. Yep. [01:20:45] Speaker B: Right. [01:20:45] Speaker A: No, you're not. He and Natalie did not win the World Series. [01:20:48] Speaker B: No. But I think the year before, the year he retired, I think was. It might have been the only year he made the playoffs. And I think they lost to Seattle and Griffey. Am I. I think you're right. Yep. [01:20:58] Speaker A: I think you're right. Right. [01:20:59] Speaker B: Okay. [01:20:59] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. Again, not a Yankee fan, so I'm not, you know, 100%, but. Yeah. Nope. I think you're dead right. You know, speaking of the Yankees, though, we also, we didn't mention that his father played for the Yankees for a lot of years. [01:21:08] Speaker B: That's right. [01:21:09] Speaker A: Ken Griffey Senior. So, you know, the Yankee fan, you know, so Griffey Jr. Is kind of grandfathered in. [01:21:15] Speaker B: Right. [01:21:15] Speaker A: Like, how much can you hate a guy who's. Who was a decent Yankee, whose father was a decent Yankee, you know, so that was kind of fun. Didn't they, didn't they play together at the end of the career? Didn't they play like one game in the outfield together or something? I remember hearing that or seeing that. [01:21:31] Speaker B: Now that you're saying that, I don't know why. For some reason I have a vague memory of that, but in my mind I'm thinking myself. Was there like an All Star Game thing with them? Like, did they. I don't know if like his dad did. His dad, like, he didn't, like mad they wouldn't pick him. The mat. He was never a manager. Was his dad a man? [01:21:44] Speaker A: I don't remember. I don't, I don't think so. [01:21:46] Speaker B: I can't remember if he managed him or. But you're right, there was some kind of thing there where they were both. [01:21:50] Speaker A: I remember seeing them like, like hug or shake hands in the outfield or something. [01:21:54] Speaker B: I know what you're saying. [01:21:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:21:55] Speaker B: But I just can't remember the, what the event was or what the deal. [01:21:59] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a good pick though. Like, he was, he was just a fun, exciting player to watch, especially as a kid. Yeah, definitely seemed like he loved the game, you know, like his dad's a ball player. There's a cool story there. It was just, it was just fun to watch. And who didn't have his, his rookie card, you know? [01:22:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:15] Speaker A: Million of them. [01:22:15] Speaker B: Right. And I feel like there was again, a lot of these guys like the Jeters and the Pujolses and the Griffeys or guys that are, you know, you know, who, who, what kid would not. Who, what parent would want your kid to look up to them? You know what I mean? Like that kind of thing. [01:22:28] Speaker A: No, for sure. Oh, you know, I should say I'm sorry. I wanted to. When I first started thinking about this list, just back to my honorable mention real quick. Just. Sorry. I know, because we, you know, Paul Holtz kind of screwed us with the, with our flow there. But, you know, hey, he's a good player. What are you gonna do? But I, the first player I thought of, oddly enough, I said, okay, he'll probably definitely make my five because I saw him play so often was Miguel Cabrera. So he's another honorable mention as well. You know, one of the best right handed hitters of all time, if you ask me. And, and again, you know, he hit the triple crown. He was, you know, the first guy to do that in so many years. So I thought for sure he would make my list. Then when I kind of poured over his stats a little bit, and then I thought about, you know, remembering watching him play, like he, I feel like he dogged it a little bit too. So for whatever reason, he got bumped out of my top five. But I wanted to mention him too. Like, you know, him and him and Manny, like, they're just a great. I think Manny was right. Some of the best right handed hitters that I got to see. [01:23:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:23:28] Speaker A: You know, so, yeah, like, he's mentioned Ortiz, so many good players, but wanted to throw Cabrera in there. I just didn't want to forget about him, you know, Bryce Harper. I'm not mentioning that, you know, I, I did, I, I, I looked at him briefly, I looked at him briefly just to see, you know, his stats aren't anywhere near there, thank God. But I did my due diligence and I looked at Harper. Now, talk about a player. How happy am I that when he leaves the Nationals, they win the World Series the next year? That was great. Loved it. Loved it. Hilarious. [01:23:58] Speaker B: Hilarious. And now that, that, that Mets player wasn't on that team, was he the. Who was the guy that had all those home runs in the playoffs then he kind of faded out there the year David, David Wright team, they went to the World Series. The, the, the Degrom and the Harvey year. Who was the big hit of that year for the Mets 2015. Yeah, when he went to the Nationals and then he had a decent year the first time year. And I don't know if what the hell's the guy's name? He had, it seemed like he had a home run at every playoff game and then he faded out a little bit. [01:24:31] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. Daniel Murphy. [01:24:35] Speaker B: Daniel Murphy. Yeah, the Nationals, when they won the World Series. [01:24:38] Speaker A: He was, I think, yeah. Oh, was he national or Phillies? No, he was a national. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yep, baby, yep. You're right, you're right. [01:24:45] Speaker B: It was a national. [01:24:46] Speaker A: Shit, I miss Murphy. He was good. He was a good player before. [01:24:49] Speaker B: Yeah, good call. [01:24:50] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, he was one. I remember he came out of the, he came out of the gate, man, like pure hit. People were talking about him. He was gonna be one of the best, best hitters of all time. Yeah, you know, I remember. You know what's funny? I remember very specifically as the hype for him just started to grow a little bit. I was listening to, I want to say, Laurie Rubinson on the fan overnight. It was definitely a female, you know, DJ and it was on the fan, it was overnight. And they were talking about Daniel Murphy and they were doing jokes. And one of the jokes was Daniel Murphy wasn't born. He batted his way out of the Universe, which is fucking ridiculous. But at the time, it's one of those things. It's like, you know, when the hype is up for somebody that you kind of don't care, it's just. You're just excited to be a part of it, you know. It was exciting. Good call. That's a good call. Yeah. I miss Daniel Murphy. He was good. Daniel. Damn it. I think we're gonna mention Zach Wheeler who became a Philly. And I know these players, like these Devils who go right to the Rangers, like Scott Gomez, like off, like, I just, I. I get it. I. I understand. But it's like, it's like it just breaks your heart, you know, when you hate this team forever and then it's like this guy's going there. Like, come on. [01:25:55] Speaker B: I remember when Bruce Driver went to the Rangers. That was horrible too. [01:25:58] Speaker A: I know. God damn. I mean, so many Rangers have been Devils and vice versa. It's like, what are we doing here? You know, Bernie Nichols or like there's so many players. But how about, you know, real quick, [01:26:08] Speaker B: I was going to say, we're closing this out here. I was gonna say, you know, one thing about baseball that I have to say I always think of is when I talk about each sport. I remember my dad, me and my dad was talking about this. Like, each sport has its own magic in the playoffs. And it was like, you know, the baseball thing, you know, I don't really think of it that much in the regular season, but in the playoffs especially, because it's so, you know, the pressure is there. There's the one on one. I mean, if you want to count the catcher, but there's a one on one with the pitcher and the batter that we don't get in the other team sports. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, we don't really get that. I mean, you know, it's, you know, unless you, you know, outside, like a penalty shot and a hockey player game or something, you know what I'm saying? [01:26:46] Speaker A: True. [01:26:47] Speaker B: You don't really get that. That. And there was something to that that is magical in its own way, if that makes any sense, you know, I think it does. [01:26:55] Speaker A: You know, I think. Think. Oddly enough, I know, and I totally get why you would say, like the super bowl is like the most exciting, you know, playoff or championship thing or whatever. Most of the world would agree sometimes, but for me, yeah, like, like, you know, overtime hockey, playoff hockey, or a walk off home run in the playoffs. Like, there's something about those moments that are just insane like it's like no doubt, you know, I mean obviously you could think of great, you know, shots in basketball or great, you know, throws in football or, you know, this, the touchdown. What a run, you know, you know, [01:27:26] Speaker B: John Riggins, like that kn the Knicks championship, that last play in the comeback game was unbelievable. [01:27:31] Speaker A: Totally unbelievable. I mean, I wish to God the, the stuff outside the arena didn't happen because that totally soiled it for me. Toxic fans ruining that whole thing. But yeah, it was good. Like I said, like I mentioned in the 90s I was a Knicks nut job. And I remember, you know, loving that 90s team and they kept running into Reggie Miller and Michael Jordan, but still like, you know, or the Piston, like there were so many great teams in that era. So the Knicks never quite got there. I was a huge Patrick Ewing fan. But yeah, it was great seeing them win like, you know, even if it was so many years after. And I don't give a. About basketball really, you know, so it was great seeing them do that. Yeah. So yeah, it is what we're rambling at this point, but it's fun stuff. [01:28:10] Speaker B: Well, I was going to say you made me think of. I always think that to me the, the most exciting things that you could see in a, in any sport are definitely a walk off home run. To me, anytime you get a breakaway in a hockey game is always thrilling. And, and I always say to me it's a number one to me is always an interception in football or especially if it's a pick six or something. It's just because it's that instant change of momentum and you know, the game is all going one way and all of a sudden in an instant it goes the other way and holy shit, [01:28:39] Speaker A: it's a great point. [01:28:40] Speaker B: Exciting. Always thought that was the coolest thing. And again it's like sitting with the walk off. Everyone's silent. You get that silence. And the same thing with hockey. You're at a hockey game, you're watching the game, everyone's sitting down. Then all of a sudden everybody stands up at the same moment. Moment. And it's so instant. [01:28:53] Speaker A: Oh, the energy. [01:28:54] Speaker B: Holy. Here we go. You know, like. Yeah, that, that. It's not like third down in football. Everybody kind of gets anticipates that you're standing up or even out of that bat, you're standing up before the ball's pitched or whatever, you know, but when it happens, there's that instant, that feeling. It's almost like a drug. I don't know how to describe it. It's so thrilling, you know. [01:29:11] Speaker A: No doubt. And folks, if you want to hear more about this particular topic, check out one of our earlier episodes. We did do a top five, five live sporting events pod. We talk about a lot of this stuff. Just excitement of, you know, sporting events that we've seen live and just the, the, the amazing that just average dudes like us have actually, you know, managed to see in person watching the game. So that was a fun pod, too. Check that out. That's our only, our only other sports pod that we've done so far. [01:29:38] Speaker B: Yeah. And, you know, it's funny, leading into this, I was like, I don't know how I feel about this, but I gotta tell you, it was a fun conversation. [01:29:44] Speaker A: Totally, man. I can't believe we talked for an hour and a half. I know about freaking baseball hitters, man. But I know what's going on here. You know, that's, you know what, Good call. Because that, you know, it's, it's just what makes it fun. It is what it is. And I'm already, like, disappointed. Every time I thought about a picture, I was like, oh, man, I can't wait to do the picture one. You know what I mean? Like, I, I. [01:30:00] Speaker B: Same thing. It's funny, you know, because I was thinking about that too. I was like, you know, but it gives us another avenue to go down, so we'll have to hit it. [01:30:08] Speaker A: No doubt. No doubt. Yes. So that's it, man. Wrap us up. I guess, I guess we're done here. [01:30:14] Speaker B: That's it. We're done. You know, if you're, if you're still with us, God bless. I think we've said that in a lot of these pods because we go on for a while, but thank you very much. Hopefully we'll get another one out to you quick. I don't know what the next topic's going to be. We got to decide that. You know, we'll have to chatter about that. Sometimes we tease it out if we know, but I don't know. Do we know? [01:30:28] Speaker A: No, I, I don't think we, we, we have a list that we, we can go through. But I feel like, I feel like we're gonna, you know, circle around to maybe tv. We haven't done tv. No, no, we did the sitcoms, but we did directors. So, yeah, maybe circle back to TV books. We'll see. We'll see what's going on. But I'm doubling down on what Bomber said. Listen, thank you so much for listening, man. We really appreciate it. If you've been with us the whole time. Like he said, God bless you. Hopefully you're into this sort of banter like we are, and you have these conversations with your friends and you enjoy listening to us. So much appreciated. We love you. [01:31:02] Speaker B: Thank you. Yes. And you know, listen, don't forget, hit us with your top five and we got we'll start announcing them. We'll read them off here. And if you want to just say you guys are morons for your top five. We. We love to hear that, too. [01:31:13] Speaker A: We'll announce that as well. If it's not self evident, we'll go ahead and announce that, too. [01:31:16] Speaker B: We got to have a laugh there. No doubt. All right. Peace. [01:31:33] Speaker A: Sam.