Laugh Track Sitcoms

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. Here we go again. [00:00:14] Speaker B: Hello. Welcome to metaverse certain 5. We are looking to hit you with a new topic today. We've been talking about this one for a while. I am your host, Brian Parks, and we're gonna say hello to our co host, Phil Rizzo. Phil, how we doing? [00:00:27] Speaker A: What's going on, Bomber? Good to be back, man. Yeah, we haven't done a Five in a while. We haven't got one out to you guys. But we have been talking about this one for a while and we're pretty excited, pretty excited to do it today. [00:00:36] Speaker B: Yeah, we're looking at some laugh track sitcoms. Now, I know you, you had mentioned that, you know, the fact that we're going laugh track sitcoms disqualify some, some of the certain shows there, right? [00:00:46] Speaker A: Yeah. So the laugh track sitcom is literally, you know, the ones that have the laugh track, but they're also called the multi camera sitcoms. So we are not doing the single camera sitcoms like Modern Family, like the Office, like Malcolm in the Middle, like Scrubs. So those are all single camera sitcoms without a laugh track. We're not doing. And I do have a, I have a weird pirate sketch not included for this list that we'll get to when we start our list. [00:01:11] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:01:11] Speaker A: All right, I'll do that first before my first one. Just, just an FYI. But yeah, laugh track sitcoms, man. Remember the days of the Laugh Track? I mean, they're still around, but the heydays, way past. Yeah, but we're still in the, we're still, they still putting them out. And I feel like Big Bang was the last hurrah for Laugh Track. I feel like. What do you think Big Bang Theory might have been the last big, big sitcom. [00:01:36] Speaker B: I guess that's the last one that, you know, I, I, I, that I could think of. I guess I'm trying because, you know, it's funny. I'm trying to think of things that were. Yeah, because I'm trying to think of ones around that time that like the, what was the Two and a Half Men was around that time, wasn't it? [00:01:50] Speaker A: That was a big one. You know, it's funny. So, yeah. So to me, like, when Seinfeld ended in like 98 or whatever, like, there have been tons of laugh track sitcoms in between then. But like, for me, like, they kept passing the torch until we got to Big Bang. And then I think it's done, like in my mind from Seinfeld after that. Everybody Loves Raymond, like, took, took the reins. [00:02:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:10] Speaker A: Right. And then when that ended, I think Two and a half Men was the main sitcom that everybody, the laugh track that everybody was kind of into. [00:02:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:16] Speaker A: And then when that ended, like how I met your mother, I would say. [00:02:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I was gonna bring that one up. King of Queens is probably in there somewhere. Right? [00:02:25] Speaker A: Or I love King of Queens. It's actually one of my honorable mentions, just an FYI. But yeah, I don't think, me personally, you know, I would never consider it the top laugh track sitcom that was on TV at the time. It was certainly. It went 10 seasons, I think. So I was, I, I loved it. But yeah, I would never. It was always like a, like a B level sitcom to me. You know what I mean? [00:02:45] Speaker B: Right. [00:02:45] Speaker A: But nonetheless, it was, was awesome. [00:02:47] Speaker B: Wow. Yeah. So, you know, it's going to be interesting to see where we go with this. Yeah. Now, now we'll hit the honorable mentions later on, I'm guessing. [00:02:55] Speaker A: Yeah, let's do that. Let's do it right before our number ones. [00:02:56] Speaker B: Right. [00:02:57] Speaker A: Like it makes sense. [00:02:57] Speaker B: I think we're gonna call that the. [00:02:59] Speaker A: The Jack Leonard advent, if you will. [00:03:05] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. Yes, that was a good suggestion. And, uh, going to stick to it. [00:03:08] Speaker A: Cool, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, so, so, I mean, so just so a little background on the left. Check. So I grew up. I grew up, you know, eating dinner around, you know, the kitchen table and the tv, and all we did was watch these sitcoms. Like it was on non stop, say from like five to like eight o' clock when prime time started. Like, all we did was sit around and watch, you know, three's Company, wkrp, what's happening, like all these great sitcoms, you know, So I grew up being in love with that laugh track. And I get a lot of pushback nowadays because I often miss, I miss the laugh track these days. And a lot of my friends, they're, you know, they, they consider the single camera sitcom to be superior. And in many ways it is. But for me, and I'm going to bring up an example of why I think it's still like, you know, the tops. When we get to my number one. I got something specific I want to talk about with that, but near and dear to my heart, laugh track sitcoms. Just, just, you know, I grew up watching them constantly like a lot of us did. So this is a, this is a fun list for me to put together. How about you? How did you put your list together? [00:04:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm curious to see what you think of it when we get into it here. You know, it's Funny when you said the, the non laugh track or the one camera thing. Being superior in a certain ways. Yeah. You know, I guess to me it all comes down to like a matter of taste. Everybody has their own. It's amazing to me what somebody will find interesting or funny and some people will not. You know, it's always gonna, you know, like some of the funniest people I met, they, you know, like. And you're one of them. And I know this is not laugh track sitcom. This is more like, you know, way back in the day, short film classic slaps. The comedy. Laurel and Hardy. I couldn't get you guys. I know somebody I couldn't get on. People on board with this. And I'm like, they are, they are, you know, the kings. Like, what are we doing here? You know? But, but, but I understand. Everybody has their own taste. For me, people would say the same thing about me being a. Because I never was into the office thing, you know, Like, I, I appreciate it for this. Don't get me wrong. I've watched it. I've laughed many times watching it. But there's. And I don't know if it's because of. They're not maybe not being a laugh track. There's like this level of uncomfortableness at certain points where I'm like, I. It's like I enjoy the humor, but at the same. Then I'll watch it for five more minutes and I'm like, I want to run out of the room because I can't take the. Whatever's in, you know, whatever going on in here. You know what I mean? It's so interesting. I feel like. I don't know. [00:05:23] Speaker A: But I tell you what, and I totally get that feeling. I've had that many times in my life. I pour through it. When I rewatch shows, I'll often avoid the episodes that I know have those moments because it's, it's tough watch sometimes. Now let me tell you something. The British Office was worse, if you could believe that. [00:05:37] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:05:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Watching David Brent do things was way harder to watch than watching Michael Scott do it. You know, I mean, like, it really was like Richie Gervais just. He went for it and. Oh, my God, some of those scenes where you. I had to look away from a comedy. [00:05:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:53] Speaker A: And you know, I hear you about like, you know, the single camera stuff. Like, it's, it's a different type of comedy. Like, it really is like, no question. It's, it's. It's not just in the writing and the acting. It's it's in the editing. It's in the, you know, I mean, like you. It's not a cheat, of course, but you have more weapons at your disposal in a single camera sick In a non. Laugh track sitcom than you do in a laugh track sitcom. You know what I mean? Now you can, you know, who knows how many of these laugh tracks that we're going to be talking about are artificial or genuine. [00:06:23] Speaker B: Right? [00:06:24] Speaker A: It's a mix of both, usually. [00:06:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:26] Speaker A: On Friends, for example, like, I know a lot of times the laugh was too much and they'd have to cut it down artificially because they had to get. Wait for the next joke. I mean, things like that. So, so a lot of it's artificial, you know, and a lot of times, you know, I remember we grew up hearing things like, you know, Happy Days was filmed in front of a live studio audience, right? Like. Like that just means there was a laugh track. And most of that was probably genuine, but some of it was probably manipulated too, you know? [00:06:55] Speaker B: Right, right, right. [00:06:56] Speaker A: But hopefully it was for the better reasons. Enough for the. Hopefully they weren't like, you know, do you see a lot of shitty sitcoms and people are dying laughing and you're like, all right, that's got to be fake. There's no way. [00:07:04] Speaker B: No, but I, I feel like there is something to that, like, though, because even on any, any of the great shows that had had an audience there, sometimes, you know, you, I don't know, like you said, you question whether it's real or not. When you hear some people laugh over something, you're like, it wasn't really that. Well, that, like, calm down here, you know, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pictures I got falling out of his chair because of, like, you know, I don't know. I don't know. The stupidest thing is what are we doing here? [00:07:23] Speaker A: Right? Right. That's good. Yeah. So it's a different beast. So I'm happy that we separated it and yeah, I'm pumped to talk about it, man. These. These five are. They're all. All like, near and dear to me, so for different reasons. So, yeah, I can't wait to. Can't wait to talk about it. But first, listen, folks, yo, hit us up. Let us know what's going on out there. Check out our social media, which is, you know, not much, but we're trying to get as much out there as we can. You know, anything you like and subscribe to and follow would be helpful. You could check us out on Tick Tock, Instagram and Threads At Men of a Certain Five. The number five. That's m E N o F a C e R T A I n the number 5. Or you can shoot us an email at men of a certain5gmail.com. And yeah, to make things complicated, that 5 is F I V e Men of a Certain F I V e G mail dot com. We'd love to hear from you. Give us your top five laugh track sitcoms. We'd love to hear it. Or give us suggestions for the next Men of a Certain Five pod. We'd love to hear that, too. What do you think about that, Bomber? What's up out there? Right? [00:08:27] Speaker B: Hit us up, hit us up. We would want to hear from you. And yeah, that would be great. If you send a suggestion, we could bs. And also, we got to get some guests on here, too, eventually down the line, you never know. [00:08:35] Speaker A: Believe it or not, we do have some people who want to jump on, so we're going to get them on there. Yeah, we got to get a couple people. We got to get on here for sure. Awesome. [00:08:42] Speaker B: That'd be fun. [00:08:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:44] Speaker B: The funniest thing is that even though, again, me and you about this all the time, that I again, I listen to other podcasts, you know, with top tens and everything. And imagine if we did a top ten. It's just me and you doing a top five. We talk for an hour and a half. So we have guests on. Forget about it. It's gonna be insane. We're gonna have to speed that shit up. [00:08:59] Speaker A: I'll tell you what, I feel like this one's gonna be shorter. I know, I know. I said that before. Yeah. And listen, folks, we do another podcast. We do a podcast called the Warp Top 10 Podcast. It's a Star Trek top 10 podcast. Bomber is watching all of Next Generation. If you're interested in hearing about that, go check out the Warp Top 10 podcast. But the last one we did of that was under an hour for the. [00:09:20] Speaker B: First time in a while, so that was cool. You're right. Look at us. [00:09:22] Speaker A: So let's. Let's shoot for it. Let's see what happens. I mean, we're not going to curtail our conversation, but if it happens organically, hey, that's great. We're. We're at like, you know, right. 12 minutes or so, 13 minutes or so after editing. So we'll see what happens. [00:09:35] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll better start getting moving here. Well, let's get it going here. Let's kick off the. Why don't you start with your number Five. Here, let me go first. [00:09:42] Speaker A: You went first last time. I want you to finish this bad boy off. So. Yeah. So let's do it. So, top five laugh track sitcoms. Number five for me. Oh, it's a special one. It's Night Court. I love Night Court. [00:09:55] Speaker B: I remember you talking about the show all the time. Yeah. [00:09:57] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. So this is another. This is one of those sitcoms that my father was really into when I was a kid. You know, this was on Thursday nights, that amazing Thursday night lineup, if you can believe it, in the 80s. At one point it was Cosby Show, Family Ties, Cheers, Night Court. I mean, that's. That's a sick run. [00:10:16] Speaker B: That's definitely good. Solid. Yeah. [00:10:18] Speaker A: Yeah. And I just curse for the first time. Let me go ahead and apologize to my brother Drew, who says we should not curse as much. [00:10:22] Speaker B: Yes. I. I want to do this. [00:10:24] Speaker A: I'm gonna try. [00:10:24] Speaker B: I like that. [00:10:26] Speaker A: So. Yeah, so. So Night Court was. Was just so amazing. I mean, it was ridiculous. It was an insane sitcom. Like, you know, my buddy Teddy will tell you that, you know, he stopped watching it because, quote, how many times can an insane clown take over the courtroom? That. And it's so true. Right. But the show was ridiculous. But I mean, I mean, you're laughing out loud. You can't help it. You know, the one liners are perfect. You know, like I said, I was allowed to stay up with my father and watch it on Thursday nights. The 9:30. I go to bed at 10 o'. Clock. When I was young, you know, the show wasn't racy or anything. Was probably too. Too young to watch it still. But, you know, the great Harry Anderson, you know, led the show. Rest in peace, but a great cast. But the real genius on this show, one of my favorite characters of TV all time is Dan Fielding. John Larroquette playing Dan Fielding, He. I mean, he won. He won the Emmy four years in a row for this show. Yeah. Best actor Emmy four years in a row. A best supporting actor. I'm not sure, maybe best supporting actor, but either way. And then he took himself out of the running, so he might have won every year he did this. Yeah. So he took himself out of consideration. I don't know if it was a professional courtesy or if he just, you know, was tired, he didn't have no room on his shelf. But so he. He was genius. Now, little caveat. I've never seen the reboot. I haven't watched the reboot yet. [00:11:48] Speaker B: I heard they rebooted and he was in. It wasn't he. [00:11:50] Speaker A: Oh yes, he was. That's why I really, really want to watch it. And it's, you know, Bernadette, I think her name is from Big Bang. She plays Harry Anderson's daughter as a judge. So it's a nice little tie in to the original, the original series, you know, unfortunately we lost a lot of the actors who are on there. Marky Post passed away, Charles Robinson passed away, Richard Mole passed away and of course Harry Anderson passed away. So I'm smiling now not because those people passed away, rest in peace, but because I'm also remembering that, you know, Brent Spiner, this is the first place I saw him, you know Data from Star Trek. [00:12:27] Speaker B: That's great. [00:12:27] Speaker A: Yeah, like he, his recurring role on Here was the first time I saw him as an actor, so. But now, so just nostalgia and just, just a well written, funny, funny show. It, it, it's kind of like I'd never seen anything like that before when I started watching it. So it was pretty kick ass. So. Yeah. I love Night Court. It's close to my heart. [00:12:46] Speaker B: I have to be honest with you. This is horrible. I know. Now, I know you've seen way more television probably than I have, but I, I never have never seen one episode of Night Court, believe it or not. [00:12:54] Speaker A: Is that right? [00:12:54] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:55] Speaker A: Worth watching. We should write. [00:12:57] Speaker B: In my time growing up, for some reason I just missed it. I don't know how I did, you know. [00:13:00] Speaker A: Yeah, you were a little younger than me. Maybe you had to go to bed earlier. Like I said, it was, I'm pretty sure it was nine. Its run on Thursday nights, so. [00:13:08] Speaker B: Okay. [00:13:08] Speaker A: But it was. No, I mean it's, it's, it's one of the only sitcoms that still holds up to this day. I watch him at night sometimes. My buddy Luke's got him for me, so, so I watch him on there and it's, it's a lot of fun. It's very nostalgic to hear, to hear the old and one of the best themes of all time. One of the best TV honestly. Like when you hear it, it's funky. I love it. I love it. It's so, uh, it's so New York in the 80s. And it's just, it's a great, uh, great opening. Theme Night Court. Love it. [00:13:35] Speaker B: Wow. How about that? [00:13:37] Speaker A: About that. [00:13:38] Speaker B: All right, well, this is going to be a completely different thing. [00:13:41] Speaker A: Here we go. [00:13:42] Speaker B: You know, I know, you know, I know people might be, you know, drive off the road when here, I don't know. But though I think, I think people do love this show. I'm not. I'm not alone in this, don't get me wrong. But I just feel like I'm going to be kind of a young guy looking at some old women here. But I was. We were big with the Golden Girls. I got to say. That's. That's. I know. [00:13:58] Speaker A: I told angel it's going to be on your list. [00:14:00] Speaker B: You know what's funny, because I have to be honest here. We were not a family that sat around a television set. We always kind of sat around at the table and BS and bullshitted, you know, for the most part of my growing up. And then I don't know what happened. I want to say right around my teenage years, for some reason, we all started to gather around the television and watch TV while we ate. And it seemed like the only show we watched that was on at that time that we loved was. Was the Golden Girls. That was then it became like a ritual with US and. [00:14:27] Speaker A: 80S, early 90s era. Is that where. [00:14:29] Speaker B: I believe so, yeah. I think they had a decent amount of seasons too. Like eight. Eight or so. I'd have to look. Yeah, they were on for a while, but. But I feel like it was just hilarious. I. You know, to be honest with you, I never expected it to be that, that, that, you know, and the characters obviously were so well defined, and it was just like, you know, I love that, to be honest. It's one of those things where it's like anytime Betty White said something stupid, which was. Which was a lot of times, obviously, but it was. It was when. I mean, they all would kind of crack on her, but there was something about Bea Arthur, when she would give a snapback to her, it was almost like a Groucho Marx line. And it was almost like, home run every time. Like, I was crying when she would piss on her. I was dying, you know, But. [00:15:13] Speaker A: But they all were. [00:15:14] Speaker B: I mean, Blanche being a one that sleeps around with everybody, and, you know, Estelle Getty was always kind of making fun of all three of them. And it was just. Just the way that they dissed on each other. It reminded me of, like, for some reason as a young teenager watching this, it was like, you take a picture, like guys in the locker room making fun of each other, but here's these old women that live together and they just make fun of each other the whole time. And, you know, there was some sentiment, sentiment, sentimentality to it, which kind of got a little corny here or there where you're like, all right, you know what are we doing here? And I was gonna say, like, Frasier later on was a show, I feel like that did a better job of that mixing like the sentiment with the comedy. But, but this got a little corner here or there, but, but, but the comedy for me was just, to me, I would, I would laugh out loud at least a few times watching the show. They were all hilarious, really. All great. [00:15:57] Speaker A: It's, it's a great, it's a great show. You know, I, I, I made fun of you back in the day when you told me it was one of your favorite shows and stuff. But there's a reason, dude. It's really funny. And yeah, dude, Bea Arthur's deadpan look at Betty White when she would say something stupid. Bea Arthur was a goddamn genius. I love her. She was great. And Betty White is a, I don't say this, I think this is a trite phrase, but she's a genuine national treasure. She really is. And it's a shame we actually lost, you know, we finally lost her, you know, a couple years ago. But nah, Colby Girls was great, man. My mom, and I'm not saying this way, funny, my mom watched it non stop. Like she, like, she loved it. And whenever it was on, I always got a laugh at the time for me. And again, I'm a little older than you. I'm five years older than you. So it wasn't quite my thing at that time. I'm about to graduate high school. I'm not gonna watch Golden Girls. But doesn't mean it wasn't funny. [00:16:45] Speaker B: Right. [00:16:46] Speaker A: But I wouldn't sit down to watch it. You know what I mean? [00:16:48] Speaker B: Yeah. For some reason, like I said, it was one of those things. There was like this little pocket of time where now like later on, if I've seen, if it's on, I want, you know, I would watch it or whatever it is. But I'm saying to rip through all the episodes we did, it was mostly we just happened to do it with my parents during that time. And if we didn't do that, I'm definitely probably wouldn't have seen or maybe appreciated it. But it's like I remember just watching that being like, damn, this thing is absolutely hilarious. Like I, because you're like, you're right. When you were young, that young, you're not going to seek out a show like that. I feel like. But it was really great. Definitely. I had to put it on the list. [00:17:16] Speaker A: 100. Good job. That's a good one. All right. My number four. All right, listen folks, listen closely. To me. Okay. I've been preaching about this show for as long as. Well, you know, since the. About 20 years. Okay. I didn't watch it faithfully when it was on. I saw some episodes, but when I was finally able to watch reruns on a. E in the early 2000s and then get it on DVD, I absolutely fell in love. And this show solidified as, in my opinion, one of the most underrated sitcoms of all time. Bomber might know where I'm going with this is. This is news radio. [00:17:52] Speaker B: Yep. [00:17:52] Speaker A: I've talked about this show ad nauseam to my friends. They're so sick of me talking about the show, I would imagine. But this is the most underrated to come of the 90s for sure, if not of all time. I can't tell you enough how, how good this show is, how unique it is, and how different it is. At the height of sitcoms in the 90s, this comes out on the surface. It's just, it's. It's a workplace sitcom on the surface with some, some familiar faces and some faces you don't know, and you tune in and you watch it. Now. Here's the thing with the show. This show got bumped around all over the place. They kept changing the time slots. At one point, it was on that Must See Thursday with Friends, Seinfeld. At one point, believe it or not, at one point, it was. It was Friends. I want to say Friends, News radio, Seinfeld, Fraser, at one point. Could you imagine? Wow. But news radio, it kept, kept, kept moving the time slot. Never got the do that it deserved. One of the best ensemble casts of all time. No question about it. If you didn't know them when they were on the show, you know them now. I mean, Dave Foley from Kids in the hall was the star of the show. He was amazing. I'm a huge Kids in the hall fan. I'm actually reading a book called One Dumb Guy. It's the, the biography of Kids in the hall right now. And it's awesome. So I love Kids in the Hall. So when I knew Dave Foley was not a sick, I was, all right, I gotta check that out. You know, Candy Alexander, who went on to do CSI Miami, Joe Rogan, he got his, his acting start here. I mean, pretty sure everyone listening to this knows who the hell Joe Rogan is. Andy Dick. Listen, the, the, the, the. The ridiculous sort of genius comedy of Andy Dick. Like, if you hate Andy Dick and you want to be like, all right, why do people even pay attention to him? Watch some news radio he was really great on that. Stephen Root, amazing. You know, the Office guy with the stapler like, I, I. Office is like one of those overrated films. I only saw it once, but. [00:19:52] Speaker B: Oh, I thought the movie was funny, but same thing for me. I've only seen it all the way through once, and I did love it, but I have to give another rewatch now to see. Yeah, yeah. [00:19:59] Speaker A: It was so overhyped by the time I watched it. I think it was let down a little bit. But Stephen Root is freaking great. Jimmy James is one of the best characters of all time. Oh, and of course, Vicki Lewis. Vicki Lewis is, is great, too. A little redhead actress from the 90s. She was great on that show. But. And more tyranny who went on to ER fame. Right. I think she won an Emmy on er. But the real. I'm. I'm saving the best for last, man, I was waiting. The show works. Oh, come on. The real reason the show works is because of the great Phil Hartman, man. Phil Hartman is one of the best comedians of all time, hands down. He's one of the best talents in my lifetime that I've ever seen. And, you know, he never got the do he deserved when he was alive. And I still think he does. Doesn't really get it. [00:20:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:38] Speaker A: Now that he's gone. But I mean, just his, his, the anchor role that he played on SNL for all those years, his film career, his, his run on this show, to me is, Is absolutely phenomenal. He's one of the best characters. Bill McNeil. Love Bill McNeil. And one of the best actors of all time. He's phenomenal. I can't say enough about Phil Hartman, but this show's great. You know, this show is like, these guys were like the bad boys of, like, NBC. Like, they would get. They would get drunk and get thrown out of the Emmy Awards dinner, you know what I mean? Like, like, because they were like, they had this attitude, like. And I've listened to commentaries about the episodes and stuff, so I've heard these actors talk about it and the producers and writers talk about it. And like, like the. NBC didn't give a shit. They kept changing their time slot. They didn't know they were getting canceled year to year. So that enabled them to just do whatever the fuck they wanted to do. Second curse that enabled them to just be like, you know what? Fuck, screw it. Let's just do a Titanic episode, even though it's already seven years too late, you know? [00:21:34] Speaker B: Right. [00:21:34] Speaker A: So they just did silly shit because who cares? You're gonna get canceled anyway. And the result is one of the best ensemble comedies of all time. I mean, it's as simple as that. Guys, trust me, watch this show. You don't even gotta get through the first season. The first season is worth watching. It's not one of those shows, all right? Wait till it gets the second season. It picks up now. It does get better and I think it peaks in the fourth season, but it's a phenomenal show. Can't say enough about news radio. [00:21:59] Speaker B: How many seasons were there? [00:22:01] Speaker A: Five seasons. [00:22:02] Speaker B: Wow. Nice. [00:22:03] Speaker A: Now Phil Hartman died in between the fourth and fifth seasons, but the first episode of season five is one of the best laugh track episodes of all time. There are the actor's actually dealing with his death and talking. So they, they had the character have a heart attack on the show and it was a funny episode. But I mean it's, it's so, it's so emotional. It's such a tear jerker. All the actors are talking about it, but they're clearly missing Phil Hartman and they're all just getting choked up. Well written episode. A great send off for, for the great Phil Hartman. Yeah. So check out news radio, guys. You won't be disappointed, I promise. [00:22:38] Speaker B: Wow. Yeah, I was gonna say, I, I remember Phil Hartman. I don't know if I remember telling you this. I probably at some point told you this. I, being a lifelong Die Hard Three Stooges fan, I didn't see the movie that came out when it, when it did a couple of years ago there. [00:22:52] Speaker A: Sean Hayes and stuff. [00:22:53] Speaker B: But one of the main reasons really, and it wasn't the actors. It's one of those things where, you know, I'm sure they did a great job. I was like, you know, but I would have seen this movie, the original casting, when they were, they were trying to make that movie for years, was going to be Phil Hartman as Mo, John Lovetts as Larry and Chris Farley as Curly. Oh my God, that sounded phenomenal. But then two of them died, so they never did. That was like, what a sad thing. Because I think that would have been hilarious to see those. [00:23:17] Speaker A: That would have been insane. It's worth noting, I should say as an addendum to my little news radio rant, that when Phil Hartman died, John Lovetz did join the cast in season five. And even though he wasn't on the same comedic level, same comedic timing as they were, John Lovitz is freaking great. So, wow. He was, he was really, he was a, he was a weird wrench to throw into the works. But I think it worked. I think it was weird, but they got some good comedy out of it. [00:23:43] Speaker B: It was really weird. So what are we gonna do? [00:23:44] Speaker A: You know, he's really weird, but I love him. I love him. I know his voice is one of the funniest comedy voices of all time. He's great. How about love it? [00:23:52] Speaker B: And I was gonna say it's funny just to go back to Office Space because Stephen Root, like, that guy, is in every goddamn thing, man. I mean, shoot my language again here. But he. He's in everything, that guy. He shows up everywhere. [00:24:01] Speaker A: And he took drama really well. [00:24:04] Speaker B: Oh, no question. He shows up on some serious drama shows. Definitely. I was gonna say two parts, maybe. Roll that. I still never, never forget about an Office Space. One is, I don't know if you remember when Gary Cole in the dream is having sex with a woman with the drink while drinking a cup of coffee. Yeah, you gotta commit. [00:24:19] Speaker A: Go ahead and move to the left or whatever. [00:24:22] Speaker B: I was dying watching that scene. Then the other scene that made me laugh was when Steve Root backs his car out of the driveway and gets derailed, like, immediately. Do you remember that or remember that? Oh, my God, that was like a Looney Tunes gag. I was crying watching that. It was hilarious. [00:24:35] Speaker A: Right, right. That's awesome. Yeah. I mean, the talent in that cast is insane. It's insane. [00:24:40] Speaker B: Well, sadly, also another show I've never seen an episode of, even though you've preached it for many years. So there's two shows right there. I gotta. I gotta get around to there. [00:24:48] Speaker A: Well, you know what? You got time in your hands, you know, with, with your. Your new daughter. You could, while you're rocking her to sleep, throw on some freaking night quarter news radio, baby. [00:24:57] Speaker B: That's true. That is true. I could do. [00:24:58] Speaker A: Hey, real quick, can we have a quick interjection? Have you had a chance to listen to the mix I made? [00:25:04] Speaker B: You know. Oh, you know what? I'm so, so funny you said that. [00:25:06] Speaker A: I was. [00:25:06] Speaker B: I was actually trying to remember when that, when that mix you did make. When did you send me that? Do you remember? [00:25:12] Speaker A: I think it was like a. Maybe a month ago. Maybe a month and a half ago. [00:25:14] Speaker B: I was gonna say. I think. You know why? Because I think in my mind, I think you sent it. And I think what happened was Lucy came or we got through all that. And then I, I. So I listened to the. I listened to the. The heavy metal band. You kind of put it in order there. I think I did. [00:25:27] Speaker A: I put it from five to One. And then the honorable mentions at the end, I got. [00:25:31] Speaker B: I was like. I want to say I was like midway through three and I. And I stopped. So I got. I definitely got to get back into that and, and listen to it. So I do want to do that. [00:25:38] Speaker A: It was, folks, after we did our top Five bands pod on Men of a Certain Five, Bomber made me a jazz mix of all these great, you know, talents that he was talking about. Fletcher Henderson and, uh, Vincent Gurdano. No. Yeah, and. And. And a multitude of other, you know, jazz people. I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was, it was. It was dense and I listened to the whole thing and I liked it a lot. I'm looking forward to listening to it again. But I. I haven't yet. But the first run through was. Was really interesting. Matter of fact, I was able to. I was hoping Troy had never heard it. He's a giant Elvis Costello fan. Oh. [00:26:15] Speaker B: So I think I remember you telling me that. Yes. [00:26:17] Speaker A: Yes. When I was up. And I was up in Boston this past week hanging out with him. He may not be listening to this pod. May or may not? Depends. Listing is not his thing. [00:26:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [00:26:27] Speaker A: So, like, he loves Star Trek, so he listens to the other pod. But Troy, if you're listening, thanks for sticking with us. You got yourself a shout out. So we. I played in the song. Oh, yeah, yeah. This is great. I knew this. I was like, ah, damn it. Hoping. I played him an Elvis Costello song he'd never heard, but apparently it's a pretty popular song. I didn't know that. [00:26:44] Speaker B: Wow. How about that? [00:26:45] Speaker A: So then I made Bomber a mix of all my five bands and a couple of my honorable mentions just to give them a taste. And he doesn't know this yet, but if he is not busy with Lucy, I'm dragging him to see 311 in. [00:26:56] Speaker B: June with Erica Martin. I haven't got into the 311 on there yet, so I'll. I'll look. I'm looking forward to that. [00:27:03] Speaker A: I wanted to put 10 songs of each on there, but I was. I showed restraint. I think I put four of the first three and then I put five. 3 11's five Led Zeppelin, and then one of each honorable mention. So hope you enjoy it. [00:27:15] Speaker B: Nice. Nice. Looking forward. [00:27:16] Speaker A: So, yeah, thank you for the. Thank you for the interlude, please. You're number four. Let's hear it. [00:27:20] Speaker B: Yeah. So I don't know, you know, I know this is going to be kind of a. A cheat here, but I feel like, you know, being an old soul here when it comes to entertainment there. I had to put this show on there, you know, I don't know. It had a laugh. Laugh track. So I had to put this on there. The Honeymooners. Can we. Could we throw that on the mix? [00:27:36] Speaker A: Oh, of course. Yes. That totally qualifies. Yeah, Everybody. [00:27:39] Speaker B: Everybody loves that. So what can we do? I was going to say also knowing you and knowing your. No one had a bigger movie or television collection that I knew than you as far as. And VHS and everything else, you know. And it's funny because I still hold on to a lot of my old stuff, even though, you know, it's. A lot of people don't anymore, obviously, but the only television show I ever bought that had had on. On a DVD was the Honeymooners. [00:28:04] Speaker A: On dvd. [00:28:05] Speaker B: Yeah. And one of the things about it is, I know there's no really reason to do that. It was always on. [00:28:10] Speaker A: No, I'm saying I'd like to borrow it. I didn't know you had it on dvd. [00:28:13] Speaker B: But the thing is, one of the reasons why is because it was very easy. I never realized there's only 39 episodes of the show. [00:28:19] Speaker A: Get out of here. That's it. I know all those times it was on reruns, they were only showing 39 of them. [00:28:25] Speaker B: I tell you what, growing up watching it, never knew any of this. But when DVDs came out, I was, oh, Honeymooners. I got to check this out. You know. So I picked up the thing. I was like, there's only one thing here. I'm like, why is there only one set? This is. This is it. That's it. [00:28:36] Speaker A: That's all there is. [00:28:37] Speaker B: Now, they did do like. Like a lot of these shows kind of do. Like, even you mentioned Night Court. They kind of did some specials later on, whether they were older, the cast, they did reunions. I'd never really seen any of those. I've really only seen, you know, the episodes from the original show or whatever you want to say. [00:28:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:55] Speaker B: But again, it's just one of those things where it's like for a show to have that little of a run and the impact that it has. It's funny. Like, you got. You go to. In this, in the city Port Authority to have a statue of Jackie Gleason out in front of the. [00:29:05] Speaker A: The. [00:29:05] Speaker B: The bus terminal. Like, what are we doing here? You know? [00:29:07] Speaker A: Yeah, no, he's a legend, dude. No kidding. I want to borrow that. [00:29:11] Speaker B: Well, listen, you know, if it's not. Yeah, I. Anytime. Yeah, I mean, you know, I've only. [00:29:15] Speaker A: Seen maybe two or three Honeymooners, but I mean, they're freaking great. I mean, I mean, no Jackie Gleason, I know Art Carney. They're freaking hilarious. So, I mean, no question. [00:29:25] Speaker B: And again, it's one of those things where it's like. It's funny how I keep thinking about this, like just thinking about Betty White. There's probably a million others that you know too. But it's like, I think about the. This is like a staple of comedy from like back in the day. And it continued on even to like, you know, like I said, I think about like Stan Laurel or Luke Costello. And here it was Ed Norton. And then you have Betty White, the, the kind of dumb character, you know what I'm saying? Where it's like, you know, it still makes you laugh. Like Ed Norton's doing something dumb and just seeing, just first of all, Jackie Gleason getting pissed on the show. What was better than that? And then there was in kind of a weird opposite way of Bea Arthur where she would give that stinging one liner to. To make fun of the person. Now Audrey Meadows played the wife on this show and she. The way she would make fun of Ralph, it was kind of a different way of doing the line. But it, every time she made fun of him, it was just the best. You know, it was really the three of them they had. The fourth woman was Trixie, which I think she actually, I think the actress's name was Joyce Randolph. I think she passed away not too long ago, maybe last year or so. [00:30:23] Speaker A: That was our Carney's wife on the show. [00:30:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't really give her much to do. To me, it was really the three. [00:30:28] Speaker A: Alice and yeah, just picture, picture Ed just coming in the door and it's the three of them doing their thing is what I remember from the few episodes I've seen. But. [00:30:36] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, but I mean there's definitely. There's so many, you know, classic episodes. The golf episode to me, the one everyone I ever see, the. When he goes on the Name that Tune thing with the Swanee river and all that. [00:30:49] Speaker A: I think I've vaguely remember seeing maybe a spoof of that, but yeah. [00:30:52] Speaker B: Oh, and there's one word. I'm gonna forget the whole gist of it now, but he gets a chance to win him and him and Ed think they're gonna get money in this will and all that. And you know, there's. There's so many episodes that are, you know, iconic, I feel like. [00:31:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:08] Speaker B: And just the way the Way Ed, Jackie Gleason would say certain things, man, obviously, everybody, everybody knows the bang, zoom, to the moon, Alice, all that bullshit. What are we doing there? You know? And it's funny how much they got in it. They really had one little setting there. I mean, every now and then you would go to like his office or, you know, his boss's place or, you know, if you had a couple episodes where Ed is in the sewer and stuff, you know, but mostly see that one room. [00:31:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I know, a little, little table with the two chairs or the chairs or whatever. Right. That's all I can see in my head. [00:31:37] Speaker B: I know, that's funny. Yeah, we always love that show, you know, my brother and I. My brother knows it way more. He's. He's seen the episodes ten times more than I am. But I, but I love it, you know. You know, my dad always loved that show, you know. Yeah. So I had to put it on the list there, you know. [00:31:51] Speaker A: That's a good one, man. That's a classic. That's probably the first great sitcom, right? Like, it's probably the first great one. [00:32:00] Speaker B: Definitely in the, in the running there. Yeah. I mean, it was in the 50s, I think, like mid-50s. So it's before Lucy, Right. I'm not sure of when Lucy was. Probably right around the same time. Actually, Lucy might have been a little bit before that. I'm not sure. But yeah, I, I. Do you think I would know that? But I, But I don't know. But yeah, that's right around the same time in the 50s. So let's say. [00:32:18] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that's great. That's awesome. [00:32:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:22] Speaker A: So listen, I want, I want to throw it. I forgot to mention, I do have a parrot sketch not included that I wanted to put in before I started my list and there's a reason for it. So my parrot sketch not included is Sports Night. Okay. [00:32:32] Speaker B: Okay. [00:32:33] Speaker A: This was a weird. So this was on the cusp of laugh track sitcoms and the beginning of the non laugh track sitcom. So the first season, it was shot as a multi camera, I'm sorry, shot as a single camera sitcom. But an artificial laugh track was put in because the network did not know what to do with it. So that's how early this, this sort of style was. So the first season is only two seasons. First season's got a laugh track. Second season doesn't. It's the weirdest thing. Wow, I love that show. Sports Night's a great show. I love Aaron Sorkin. I was actually just talking to my brother today. About this. He asked me. Drew asked me, phil, what's the. Because I mentioned on the pod, the last pod, that he's the one who got me into 311. And he totally forgot that. Of course, it was 30 years ago. So he said, what would you say is the best thing that I've ever gotten you into? Is it Harry Potter, which I do love, and he got me into it, or is it 311? And I was like, oh, it's a tough one. And then I mentioned as an honorable mention, because, you know, even in my daily freaking life, I'm listing things. I said, technically, you got me into Aaron Sorkin because you and dad got me into Sports Night. Wow. And that led to, you know, led to the West Wing. It led to the newsroom. It led to Studio 60 and Sorkin's movies and his writing. And I love Aaron Sorkin now. But this was a weird thing. Like, it had a laugh track for the first season, which was artificial, was not a live studio audience or any of that. So I did not include it for that reason. Just an FYI. So parrot sketch not included. News, Sports Night. So great show. [00:33:59] Speaker B: Love it. Wow. [00:34:00] Speaker A: Kicking out. But it's. It's a weird experiment. Came out in the late 90s. I want to say 98. Right before he did the West Wing, he did this show. [00:34:09] Speaker B: Another. Now I'm over three here so far for you, because I know another show you've mentioned many times to me, and I've never seen an episode, so that's funny. We got. We got. We got to get involved here. [00:34:19] Speaker A: Well, I'm afraid my number three is probably gonna be another one you haven't seen either. I don't think so. I might have forced you to watch one back in the day, but. So listen, this is another. Maybe only 39 episodes of the Honeymooners is great because this show only has 12 episodes. [00:34:32] Speaker B: Yes. You gave me this whole series. I watched all of them, and I did love it. Yeah, you watched them all. [00:34:36] Speaker A: Awesome. [00:34:36] Speaker B: Good. [00:34:37] Speaker A: So, you know. So, folks, this is Faulty Towers. This is. This is. Man, this is. This is. This is my bread and butter as far as comedy, man. This is one of the. This is one of the greats. John Cleese from Monty Python fame claims a hotel plays a hotel owner named Basil fty. And Fawlty Towers is the name of his hotel. It's a British sitcom from 1970. I want to say 75 or 76. It's definitely the mid to late 70s. 2 only had two seasons, or whatever they call them in Britain 2. Whatever they call them doesn't matter. It's not seasons, whatever. So it's only two. Only 12 episodes. Man, do I wish there were more episodes, man, because this show, every episode is just bonkers. Hilarious, man. John Cleese. And there's a pattern here, like between Dan Fielding and Phil Hart. I'm sorry, John Leverkette, Phil Hartman, John Cleese. I guess I need a physical, strong, funny guy in my sitcom, you know what I mean? Because, you know, physical comedy is hilarious and. And you know those characters I just gravitate towards. And Basil Fawlty, man, he's one of the best characters of all time. One of the best sitcom characters of all time. I won't bother telling you the cast because most people in America won't know their names, but it seems like any British actors in everything that's made, that's British, you know what I mean? So you'll. You'll see them again. I've seen these actors everywhere. And of course, the great John Cleese. I love Monty Python. I actually got into this before Monty Python. [00:35:58] Speaker B: Wow. [00:35:59] Speaker A: I watched Fawlty Towers shout out to the 1% chance that my junior year English teacher is listening to this. Mr. Linehan, because he's the one who showed us an episode of this in class. [00:36:15] Speaker B: Mr. What? [00:36:16] Speaker A: Linehan. [00:36:17] Speaker B: Okay. [00:36:17] Speaker A: Mr. Linehan, he was, he was a cool dude. So thank you, Mr. Learnhan, if you listen to this, because he showed us two episodes of Faulty Towers in class. I'm. I think it was me and one other dude on the other side of the room who were dying and like, everyone else was like, what the hell is he showing us? [00:36:34] Speaker B: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:36:35] Speaker A: It was a British sitcom shown to like a 16 year old, right? Like, what am I gonna do with it? But I was dying. And I'll tell you, I don't remember both, but the one episode he showed me was the Kipper and the Corpse. You remember the one where the red. The. The hotel guest dies and they're carrying around? [00:36:50] Speaker B: I do remember that. Yes, yes, yes. [00:36:52] Speaker A: I mean, I was, I was. I was embarrassed in high school and how hard I was laughing at these episodes. Like I was just dying. I went right to three curses. I went right to Suncoast Video, bought the VHS's and I just wore them out. Just played them non stop. I got them on DVD. Now, folks, this is. It's 12 episodes. Each of them is about 26 or so minutes long. They're so good. They're so funny. John Cleese. Is an absolute genius. And. And they're really worth checking out. They're so fun. [00:37:21] Speaker B: You know, I was gonna say I just had to be at least 25 years. This is definitely during the Burger King years for me. When you. When you lent all these videos to watch. [00:37:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:30] Speaker B: And I was gonna say, I. There is something and that's funny when you're talking about the kids in your class, like, there was only two years. Unless there are some people that don't like that type of comedy, which is one thing. But I was gonna say, for me, sometimes I don't know if you have the same problem, but every now and then with certain British things, sometimes. I didn't really have that problem with this show, but I've noticed that other British comedies or other British shows, like, sometimes the dialogue, if they get too. Depending on who the actor is and they have an accent, like, sometimes the dialogue is hard to understand sometimes. Do you find that. [00:37:57] Speaker A: Sure, yeah. 100. Yeah, of course. Especially when they, you know, they talk fast or they're trying to get, like, multiple jokes out or it's like. It is hard to understand it. Of course. Now, that being said, the more you watch British sitcoms, the more you pick up. One of my honorable mentions is a British sitcom. It's freaking hilarious. My father, again, I mentioned my father so much, God bless him. He. He watched a lot of British sitcoms growing up. I mean, not just Benny Hill, which was hilarious. [00:38:22] Speaker B: Right, Right. [00:38:23] Speaker A: But he also loved a show called who's Mining the Store? Which he watched a lot. My mother loved the show called Keeping Up Appearances. Like, so there was British comedy kind of in my house sometimes. [00:38:33] Speaker B: Wow. [00:38:34] Speaker A: So you just get an ear for it. You start. You start picking up on it. And I'll tell you what, Pretty much all I know from about, like, modern British society comes from the sitcoms I watched or the movies I watched. So, like, you actually pick up a lot. Like, you hear words, you're like, I don't know what that word even means. I don't get that joke. But then you look it up, you're like, oh, that's okay. And the next time you kind of get it, you know, like. [00:38:54] Speaker B: Yeah. So there's a lot. [00:38:55] Speaker A: A lot of. A lot of colloquial phrases and stuff, especially from the 70s in, you know, this place that's outside London in the 70s, where they're just talking and you just don't. You don't get it all. But doesn't matter, folks. There's enough physical comedy. There's enough I mean, the whole thing is a farce. The whole. It's very Frasier. Like, the whole thing's. Every episode's a misunderstood. Very Three's Company. Right? The whole thing's a misunderstanding. You know, everything's like. You know, Basil's trying to do something, but his wife won't let him, so he's got to sneak around and get it done. Like, it's. They didn't break the mold with, like, sitcom plots, but. [00:39:24] Speaker B: Right. [00:39:24] Speaker A: It's. The execution is just brilliant. It's just brilliant. [00:39:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Love it. Nice. Nice one. [00:39:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Nice one. [00:39:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:35] Speaker A: Oh, you got that. Did you see that. That drummer video I sent you? [00:39:39] Speaker B: Yes. That was hilarious. [00:39:40] Speaker A: That drummer. Watch some more of his videos. He's. He's the best drummer I've ever seen. Folks you probably know I'm talking about. He's that drummer on Tick Tock and Instagram who could drum anything is the Italian dude with the beard who just, like, the guy's a God. Like, you can drum with one hand. What, like, you know, John Bonham could do with two hands. It's. It's insane. But I sent Bomber a video of Rowan Atkinson. Speaking of British comedians, who did this One man special. Not a One man special, but whatever. He did this special on HBO way back in the day, and I gave Bomber a tape, and we've watched it a million times since then. There's one sketch where he's playing drums, but the drums aren't there. It's all invisible, and he's just. You know, he's just doing all these crazy things with the drums. So this guy on Tick Tock, he put it side by side, and he actually drummed along with Rowan Atkinson. I mean, not that it was that complicated, but it was just fun to watch, right? [00:40:26] Speaker B: No, definitely. Awesome. [00:40:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:28] Speaker B: It's hilarious British comedy. [00:40:30] Speaker A: You rock. If Mr. Bean had. Had. Had a. Wait, did Mr. Bean have a lap track? Oh, I think it did, didn't it? I think. [00:40:39] Speaker B: I think it did, but I. I didn't know how to rate that as far as it. Maybe because it was a British show. I didn't really think of counting those kind of things, but I didn't put that in consideration. [00:40:49] Speaker A: But Mr. Bean's freaking hilarious, too. That's a classic. I didn't consider that, but I'll throw that in my honorable mentions. [00:40:54] Speaker B: Yeah, me too. Yeah, I love that show. I. With you there. [00:40:56] Speaker A: Yeah, by all means. All right, my bad. I've been taking up too much time. Give me your number three, baby. [00:41:01] Speaker B: No, no, you're you're right on time. No, no, I, well, my number three. I don't know if you're gonna have this on yours at some point here, but I had to put Frasier on, on the list there, you know. [00:41:08] Speaker A: Beautiful. [00:41:08] Speaker B: What are we doing here? Of course, I, Yeah, this was, now, this was a show we were watching, you know, with the family at nighttime there when it was part of that lineup there. And, you know, it's just, it's a great show. I don't know what to say. You know, first of all, the idea of having kind of like his, his, his father and his brother are great, you know, and the idea of having his dad be kind of like an Oscar Madison and him and his brother be like the Felix Ungers was just a genius idea to me, you know. [00:41:36] Speaker A: Great comparison. Great comparison. [00:41:38] Speaker B: And you had Roz, who was hilarious in the radio station, and, and Daphne was great. And I, and I actually had a crush on Daphne watching the show. What are we going to do here? You know, speaking of. Maybe it's a British accent, I don't know, but how about. And there was a bald headed dude that was in Frazier's office. I thought that guy was pretty funny too. When he came on Dan Butler. [00:41:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Playing Bulldog, he was great. [00:41:56] Speaker B: Bulldog. Yeah, that's right. [00:41:58] Speaker A: Yeah. He's also, he was actually technically a regular on a few seasons. [00:42:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:42:02] Speaker A: Believe it or not, people consider, People think that show is just five people, but Dan Butler was, was credited as a regular for, I want to say, at least two seasons. [00:42:09] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Well, you can also count Eddie. I mean, you know, what are we doing here? [00:42:13] Speaker A: You could count Eddie. Eddie as Eddie. [00:42:16] Speaker B: But I, I, you know, again, I thought it was like, you know, it had all the such, the comedy was great. And then also again, they would, they would have these moments that were kind of touching at times where you're like, oh, you know, and they did it in a very cool way. You know, if you want to say, maybe it got corny here or there, but to me, it wasn't as schmaltzy as, as some of these other shows. Like I say, like it was. I thought it was really well done, the show, obviously, I know it won a lot of Emmys. It had a lot of seasons. I definitely have not seen all of them. There's no question about that. But I definitely had to put this on there. I, I loved it. What do you got? [00:42:48] Speaker A: Well, you know, let's keep talking about it because my number two is Frasier. So we can, we can. Keep. Keep the conversation going. [00:42:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:53] Speaker A: Come on. This show's brilliant, man. Like, this is. This is one of those shows. It's one of those things. And this is sort of stupid to say, but I think, you know what I mean, if it wasn't for my number one, this would be number one. And, and that's, that's, you know, I'll explain more when we get to number one, which you probably already know what it is, but now, Frazier's great, dude. Yeah. I mean, and I was in love with Roz, not Daphne, but I hear you. You know, I mean, Daphne was, of course, adorable and they, you know, and she was. She was really funny on there, and it was a great. It was. It was a nice X factor sort of having that family dynamic. It was a really smart move to put her in there. Yeah. To me, this sitcom, you know, broke a lot of rules. So this was one of the first. Not the first, but one of the first sitcoms to not have an interstitial establishing shot. Okay. People don't think about that. But when you watch Friends, you know, as they show the building, when you watch Seinfeld outside of, you know, Seinfeld's building, you know, this show did not have that. It had those. Those word cards, right? Something a little different, like, sets it apart. Yes, the show was. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they were good. And yes, the show was highbrow. I mean, for a sitcom. Let's, you know, let's face it, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't too highbrow to follow or anything. You know, there were some references I'm sure that people, including myself, didn't always get, but, man, it was worth it. Like, this is. This is the show that pulls off farce, in my opinion, better than any show that's ever. That's ever any sitcom. Like I mentioned before, like shows like Faulty Towers and Three's Company, you know, that I adore, who always pull off the misunderstanding so well to great effect, but this one did it really great, you know, and. And if they didn't have that, the, the acting, like you mentioned, the talent, the comedic talent was. Was just great. One of the most successful spin offs of all time, you know, coming off of Cheers and. Yeah, I mean, I mean, Niles, like, like David Hyde Pierce's Niles again. Here we go. Right? Like, I'm gravitating to one person that's really anchoring the show. The Niles episodes are by far the best episodes. I'm sorry, but they are, you know. [00:44:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:00] Speaker A: And that isn't to say that the Roz episodes aren't funny or, you know, John Mahoney, Rest in Peace. Isn't. Isn't that funny? [00:45:07] Speaker B: But yeah. [00:45:09] Speaker A: He was genius. He was absolute genius. [00:45:11] Speaker B: I know. [00:45:13] Speaker A: And, and, and Kelsey Grammer, like, you know, like who. What's not to love? [00:45:16] Speaker B: Like a long career. Long, long, unbelievable long career. [00:45:19] Speaker A: I mean, he played that. He's been playing the same character since the early 80s. Think about that. You know what I mean? [00:45:23] Speaker B: That's crazy. [00:45:24] Speaker A: And he just stopped playing on last year, like, you know, because I watched the Frasier revival. He had two seasons. [00:45:29] Speaker B: I didn't watch that. Was it, Was it good? [00:45:31] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, it was good. I mean, it wasn't what it was. It was. It's not Frasier. It's not the Frasier we know. But I thought, I thought it was, it was fun to watch. I mean, it's fun to watch though. Watch him do his thing again. Yeah, you got a couple really cool legacy visits. You know, Raj shows up for some episodes. [00:45:46] Speaker B: Did Nile show, which I loved. [00:45:48] Speaker A: No, I was really disappointed. His son, his son in universe. Him and Daphne had a kid and his son is on the show. Oh, wow. So it's Fraser's son, Freddie and Nile's son, their next door neighbor and. [00:46:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:03] Speaker A: And. And Frazier's work friends who are freaking hilarious. The work part was the best part of the. Oh, really? [00:46:08] Speaker B: Show. [00:46:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Which I can't say about Frasier. I loved, you know, the radio station. I love all the personalities there, of course, you know, Bulldog and Gil and you know, and Roz, of course. But. And Kenny, you know, but, but in this instance, the, the workplace was actually funnier than the home, which, which I liked a lot. [00:46:25] Speaker B: Wow. [00:46:25] Speaker A: So, yeah, I mean, Frazier, Frazier's an all timer and I've seen all 11 seasons multiple times. It's. Feel free to borrow those DVDs. We could do a little trade. I'll do Honeymooners. You're welcome to them whenever you. I mean, they're on. They're on Hulu and I'm sure they're all on. They're on every streaming, but that's one of those shows. News radio, faulty towers, Frasier and my number one are. I could put it on and it could be on all day and I'll just do my thing and I'll watch it non stop all day. It's right up there. Just, just. It's an absolute staple. I never get tired of it. I didn't watch it faithfully when it was on tv, actually. But once I caught on, I went out and bought all the DVDs and just devoured it. [00:47:05] Speaker B: I mean, love, love. [00:47:08] Speaker A: Sure. Love it, love it, love it. [00:47:09] Speaker B: No, me too. Awesome. Good. Good choice. [00:47:13] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you, sir. [00:47:14] Speaker B: Well, all right, now let's get to the number two here for me. And I'm gonna say I, I, we mentioned it before. I had to look up the year. So apparently in 1951, it predates the Honeymooners and we got to put I Love Lucy on the list now. [00:47:25] Speaker A: Good job. [00:47:26] Speaker B: I, I gotta say, there was one summer. I'll never forget this. I was like, I was. This is like 87 maybe or 88 for some reason. Fox 5 had I Love Lucian and they ran two episodes back to back from 9 to 10 in the morning. I every like, like a religion. I couldn't wait to get out of bed and watch him. It was Monday through Friday every day in the summer. I watched and I must have watched. They must. Went through the whole show probably multiple times. I just. There's no show I've watched like that. You know, I'm. It's the only show I've probably seen. Every episode of it is just I. Every time, you know, and every episode was kind of the same. There's gonna. Lucy's gonna be involved, some kind of BS scheme and she's got to try to talk away at him again. But it was just the best, you know, it was, it was just so much fun. It was like you said, like a comfort food thing and, you know, ironically enough, different than kind of like the Honeymooners. You kind of almost picture most of the show happening in like their apartment or at the nightclub. But, you know, they went to Hollywood, they had episodes out there. They went to Connecticut, they had the house over there. They did episodes there. You know, I mean, who doesn't watch television? Who doesn't know the vitamin E to Vegemite episode or the chocolate episode. You know, they even had a great conveyor belt. [00:48:31] Speaker A: The chocolate. [00:48:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:48:32] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. Who hasn't seen that? [00:48:34] Speaker B: That's great. Harpo Marks was on one. They did the whole Mirror Secrets from Duck Soup on there. [00:48:43] Speaker A: Get out of here. That's great. [00:48:44] Speaker B: Oh, you know, and it was just, to me, it was just a lot of fun. There was a lot of slapstick humor to it. You know, it was all, you know, and as far as, like, you know, it's funny. Like if you did like a Mount Rushmore of television, female comedians. I mean, it's. If it's Lucille Ball, Carol Burnett. And then you go from there. I feel like, don't. You know, I mean, what are we doing here? I think she. [00:49:01] Speaker A: She's on the Mount Rushmore. Whether it's female or male, like on. [00:49:04] Speaker B: There, no matter what, Lucy 100 Lucy. [00:49:07] Speaker A: And Jackie Gleason are on there. And you could fill in the other two. But I mean, you know, if you're talking sitcoms. Yeah. How could she not? She's. She's comedy royalty. No question about it. [00:49:15] Speaker B: No, no doubt. And, you know, and they're all great. Desi was great. And, you know, Fred and Ethel William Frawley and. And it's funny. Vivian Vance, who played Ethel. They did another show after. I've never seen that. [00:49:27] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I'm. [00:49:28] Speaker B: See, I don't have the Lucy show. [00:49:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I've heard of that. [00:49:30] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't think they. I don't think they played the same characters. Maybe they did. Again, I've never seen an episode of it, but believe it or not, how crazy is that? [00:49:35] Speaker A: But. [00:49:35] Speaker B: But they were kind of a good, good duo, the two of them. You know, it's kind of funny that. [00:49:39] Speaker A: You know, I've never. I don't. I maybe seen a full episode twice, which is a sin because my mother is die hard. [00:49:48] Speaker B: I know she is. [00:49:50] Speaker A: She's seen every episode so many times. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I love that Allison's into it. I love that you're into it. And it's one of those shows that at some point I got. You have those on dvd. Maybe I'll just do a whole, like Honeymooners slash Lucy and just bang them out. [00:50:03] Speaker B: I don't. Again, the only some reason I don't want to ever have was the Honeymooners. I never. I never, never went out. [00:50:08] Speaker A: How many. Maybe sixes or episodes it was. There were six. [00:50:11] Speaker B: Six seasons, yeah. [00:50:12] Speaker A: Of Lucy. [00:50:13] Speaker B: Of Lucy. Yeah. [00:50:14] Speaker A: Okay. I think how many was the season? Like 20. 25. That's a great question. [00:50:18] Speaker B: I'm not sure, actually. I want to see the older shows. [00:50:20] Speaker A: Have a little more, like, maybe. [00:50:21] Speaker B: Yeah. I was going to say probably. I want to say around 25 twilight zone now. [00:50:25] Speaker A: And it's like the first season had like 32 episodes in it. I was like, wow. Yeah. [00:50:29] Speaker B: I'm not sure if they all had the same amount. Some of them might have less than others or something like that. I'm trying to remember now, but I was gonna say, too. Wasn't. [00:50:37] Speaker A: Wasn't. [00:50:38] Speaker B: Wasn't. Lucy, was you to told me this or did I hear this on the podcast somewhere? Lucy and was it Lucy and Desi or just Lucy or one of them? That was big and getting Star Trek on television. [00:50:46] Speaker A: I was gonna bring this up. [00:50:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:48] Speaker A: Star Trek was, was Desi Lou Studios. Was, was the studio that, that had Star Trek, that, that funded that green lit Star Trek. So we have, we have Lucille Ball to thank largely for. For Star Trek. Yeah. So tie into the other pod. Tie into warp. Top 10, man. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Lucille Ball. It's phenomenal. [00:51:07] Speaker B: And she was also in one of the Three Stooges shorts, the Three Little Pig Skins, a football episode. That was great. [00:51:12] Speaker A: Really? [00:51:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And she also was awesome service with the Marx Brothers. But obviously she had Harpo on the show and everything. But yeah, I mean, she had John Wayne on the show. It was just, you know, that was a great episode too. But, you know, I, I, I, it was just, to me, it was like you say about a lot of the other shows that you like to. It was just fun. It was just a fun show. Like, it was just, you're just gonna have a good time watching it. And that's, that's really all it comes down to, you know, and she was just, physically and verbally, she was really, really hilarious. There's no question about amazing. Yeah. [00:51:38] Speaker A: Anytime I've seen her, she's. She's just genius. I love it. And I'll tell you what, I'll lead this right into my honorable mentions, because I remember when I was a kid, I don't remember this or not, but there was. Three's Company is one of my honorable mentions. [00:51:49] Speaker B: Me too. I love that show. Definitely. Oh, yeah, you gotta put John Ritter alone. Yes. [00:51:53] Speaker A: John Ritter again, just. Oh, he's, I mean, man, talk about a guy who's taken too early. Him and Phil Hartman, you know, put on that list along with, of course, you know, Chris Farley you mentioned before, like, just taken way too early, man. Matter of fact, I just watched Emma and I just watched the Buffy episode with John Ritter. It was made, like, almost like right before he started the sitcom and then the Eight Simple Rules, and then he died shortly thereafter, maybe a year before he died, he was on the Buffy episode. Anyway, there was an episode of Three's Coming. I feel like it was a clip show and Lucille Ball hosted it. Like, she came into, she came into Janet and came into the apartment and introduced and talked about, like, how funny it was, and she introduced all the clips. And I didn't know, like, obviously my mom was in a Lucille Ball, so I knew that she was into it. I Haven't watched any Lucy episodes. But when she showed up, like, even though I was like, probably six years old, like, I knew, okay, wow, she's lending so much weight to the show. Like, she's. Her presence is huge. You know what I mean? And this is. This is the late 70s, so, like, yeah, maybe even the early 80s. So she's past her prime, of course. But I was like, holy. Even I knew Lucille Ball is introducing, you know, these clips. So I know it's good. It means a lot, you know, so that was kind of cool. [00:53:04] Speaker B: That's awesome. [00:53:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Three's Company. Huge, huge shout out there for my honorable mention. Cheers. I gotta throw Cheers on there. [00:53:11] Speaker B: It's one of those. Gonna be in mine too. [00:53:13] Speaker A: Yes. It's one of the shows I've never seen every episode of, but I've seen plenty. [00:53:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:18] Speaker A: To know that it's an awesome show. I've seen episodes from each era, from the early era with Coach to Woody, from, you know, Diane to Rebecca. So I've seen them all, you know, and they're all good, you know, it's an absolute. It's one of those shows that like, like I'm actually watching Wings right now, like from start to finish. I've never seen that show at all, so I wanted. I was in the mood for a 90s sitcom, so I started watching that. After that, I'm definitely gonna go back to Cheers. I did that a few years ago when it first popped on Netflix or something. I watched the first couple seasons, but I want to finish that, so that's on my list. To finish Cheers. I'm gonna throw Will and Grace to Shout out. I almost didn't put him on the honorable mentions, but I love that show. But not enough to talk about more Friends. How can you not mention Friends? You know, I love Friends. I know a lot of people either love it or hate it. It's one of those shows that it's, for some reason, in this day and age is divisive. [00:54:07] Speaker B: Go ahead. Yeah, no, I was just. I. I don't have a lot a hate thing for it. That just never really was my kind of show. So I never really got on board with that. [00:54:15] Speaker A: Found that it's not a rewatchable show for me. I know a lot of, like, Emma watches it non stop. Like she's seen every episode, but she pretty much watches the first five seasons over and over and over, which I get because I watched it a ton of the 90s when it was first on. I watched it non stop, but I found that 10 years down the road, it kind of wasn't one of those shows I was reaching for. You know what I mean? Not like these other shows. And then the last honorable mention, because I want to tie it back into folding Towers is the it Crowd. It's a British sitcom. Very recently. Discovered it only a few years ago that my buddy Troy introduced me to it. And I just fell so hard for it. It's so good. It's absolutely hilarious. There's an episode called the Work Outing, and it's one of the best episodes of television I've ever seen. It's. It's one of the hardest I've ever laughed watching a sitcom. I left Jack. Sitcom. What do you got? You. [00:55:06] Speaker B: You showed me the first episode. I believe it was the first one. [00:55:10] Speaker A: Okay. [00:55:11] Speaker B: Wasn't it in the movie? In the actual theater, there's a show going on and he has to be handicapped or something. Right? [00:55:17] Speaker A: That was the one that's. I showed you. I showed you my favorite one. That's. [00:55:20] Speaker B: Oh, that's the one. I was dying. That was hilarious, man. That was absolutely hilarious. [00:55:26] Speaker A: It's. It's politically incorrect, folks. I'm gonna go ahead and tell you that, like, he's Chris o', Dowd, who's a genius, is forced to pretend he's handicapped. And you know, look, this is not. This is mid 2000s to late 2000s. It's, you know, it's not politically correct, but his. His face when he's on the chairlift and he's just resigned to just. He's got to do this now. It's every time. And it happened twice in the episode. So I laugh. I barely laugh hard twice. Every time I watch it. Every time. It never gets old. [00:55:58] Speaker B: That was like. [00:55:59] Speaker A: Can't breathe. Laugh. It's. It's just brilliant. And, and when. And when. Jen. Okay, I'll get you a drink. Turns around and then the other guy's bartending because he's. He's got his own mix up going on. He's just stuck behind the bar. It's genius. It's just so good. But that show in general, check it out. It's so worth watching. There's not many episodes. It's so good. [00:56:19] Speaker B: You're right. That episode was like three forces going on in one episode or something insane. [00:56:23] Speaker A: It was a lot. It was a lot. And. And the, The. The main three cast members are great. And this show, if for no other reason, it's famous for getting Matt Berry of what we do in the shadows fame, who I think is One of the funniest dudes alive. [00:56:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:37] Speaker A: I love Toast of London. I love Toast of Tinseltown. Anything he's in, I will watch because it's hilarious. And he was in seasons two, three, four, and five of that show, and it's freaking great. He's. Yeah, he's. He's hilarious. So he. When he joins the. The show, it elevates as well. Not that Mr. Random wasn't good, but, you know. Anyway, those are my honorable mentions. You know, I. Again, Mr. Bean, I can't believe I didn't think of that one, but. Because I don't hear it as having a laugh track in my head, but I think it did. [00:57:04] Speaker B: But it's funny. It was almost like one of those weird laugh tracks too. It was like, you know, sometimes you could hear the individual people laughing. I don't. I don't know how to describe it if there was a. There was a weirdness to that laugh track. I don't know, maybe that's why I didn't think about trying to win again. Maybe because. Or maybe because it was British show, I didn't think of it. I don't know if that, you know. [00:57:19] Speaker A: Well, I mean, it is a single camera, so, like, there's no way there was a live audience there. So they're all artificial laugh tracks, right? [00:57:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:26] Speaker A: Yeah, in that instance. So maybe that's why it sounded a little off and I never kind of connected it. [00:57:30] Speaker B: No, I definitely. I definitely love that. I was gonna say. Only other couple ones I was gonna mention was I did love the old. I know these are older, but I'd love the Odd Couple show with Jack Klugman and Tony. Yeah, that was a great show. [00:57:40] Speaker A: Sure. I remember when I was a kid, I watched that a lot. Yeah. [00:57:43] Speaker B: Another one of my. [00:57:44] Speaker A: One of the. One of the best theme songs ever as well. [00:57:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, here's another one with a great theme song. One of my idols growing up. Loved it. I. I was not a big all in the Family. Didn't watch a lot of all in the Family, but Sherman Helmsley as George Jefferson was the man. I love that guy. You know, I know the wife was good too, and everything, but he was the best man. [00:58:04] Speaker A: I love that guy. Florence. Was that her name? [00:58:08] Speaker B: And it was. I forget the daughter's name. And it was a. The. [00:58:12] Speaker A: The British guy. [00:58:14] Speaker B: The awkward looking British guy. [00:58:15] Speaker A: I was gonna say Lionel something. [00:58:17] Speaker B: Right again. It was like. I want to say, it was so weird how I feel like these are like summer connected. Maybe because I had the time or to put into. Me and my brother for one summer religiously watched that show. We were cracking up. Dying watching that. I want to go back to that show because I really loved that show growing up, man. [00:58:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I watched. I watched a lot of those. Those were really good. A buddy of mine, Jay, who will never listen to this podcast, but he was. He was die Hard Jefferson, so I've never seen him laugh harder. You remember Jay Blues? I've never seen him laugh harder than when, like, Sherman Hemsley would be doing his. Like, his walker, his thing. Yeah, something. There was a funny bone that Jay had that I never tapped into that Sherman Hemsley did. And it was. Yeah, he loved it. [00:58:56] Speaker B: Jefferson's great. And I think it was also the fact that he was just so short helped out too. I mean, if it just made it the best. [00:59:02] Speaker A: Yeah, it's good. He's so good. Did you watch Amen? [00:59:06] Speaker B: That was funny. You brought that up. Always wanted to. I always saw the commercials for. I was like, oh, I should check this out. And I never. Never tapped into it. [00:59:13] Speaker A: It was good. I think it was on for a little while. Right. [00:59:15] Speaker B: Yeah. I think I was gonna say, I think it had at least two seasons. I don't know. [00:59:17] Speaker A: Yeah, right. [00:59:18] Speaker B: Maybe it did. I'm not sure. [00:59:19] Speaker A: But lasted longer than Joey did. The. The friend spin off. [00:59:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:25] Speaker B: I'm trying to think. I'm sure there's gonna be more that we. I'm gonna think of here, but, you know, for honorable mentions. But I'm sure we know where we're going as far as we didn't parrot sketches. I think we all know where we're going. Number one, I'm assuming. [00:59:34] Speaker A: Assuming I'll. I'll say it. My number one is Seinfeld. I assume there's two. [00:59:37] Speaker B: Gotta be. [00:59:38] Speaker A: Gotta be. Look, look, look, folks, I do not understand the people who say to me, yeah, I. I just. I don't think Seinfeld's funny. I. I'll. I'll be Arthur them for, like, a year. I will stare at them like, what the fourth curse? What the are you talking about? Sorry, Drew. Like, it's. Look, people. Yeah, people say that. Like, I could see how. Because it's. It's kind of dated now. Right. Not in a comedy way. In a situational way. Right. Like, so many of the plots were based on, you know, call waiting or, you know, things that, like, you're, like, standing in line at the bank kind of stuff. [01:00:21] Speaker B: Right. [01:00:22] Speaker A: Stuff that we don't do anymore. You know, I get that other comedies have More of a longevity when it comes to the subject matter. [01:00:31] Speaker B: Right. But you know what? [01:00:32] Speaker A: That does not freaking matter. This is for me, outside of animated shows, this is the number one rewatchable show of all time, outside of animated shows. Because I can watch the Simpsons, American dad and Family Guy until I die. But this show like this, I have not stopped watching this show faithfully, regularly since I got into it in. Let's say I jumped on board around the fifth season. I'd say so, like around 96 or so, you know, 95, 96. Yeah. Something I didn't, I didn't see it from the beginning. Even though as a family we love Jerry Seinfeld as a stand up comedian in the 80s, my mother loved him, especially because he was so clean. He never curses, you know. [01:01:12] Speaker B: Wow. [01:01:12] Speaker A: So like. So mom, we were into Seinfeld early and I remember we, I think we watched the pilot when it first aired and we're into. And then we just forgot about it. But after that, man, some friends got me into it. And then of course, Troy, God damn it, you know, between you, Troy and my brother, like, I wouldn't watch anything else. It wasn't for you guys. So we were up in Boston and Troy had a lot of them recorded on vhs and I had never seen them, but a lot of my friends were telling me, you know, Teddy and Troy, they're all into it, they're talking about it non stop. This was the water cooler sitcom, right? This was this, this defined that whole 90s scenario. This anchored the 90s as far as TV comedy goes. It absolutely did. [01:01:52] Speaker B: Definitely. [01:01:53] Speaker A: If you weren't alive in 96, 97, 98. We can't tell you how much of an impact this had culturally on at least where we lived on the East Coast. It was, it was insane. So he showed, you know, we put it in and he put in this, this VHS and we, we just, we just died. It was just cloud. It was, I think it was the sixth season that he was recording. So we're watching shows like let's say the, the chaperone, the understudy, you know, the woman, Bette Midler was on there, you know, like that, you know, so. Yeah, and, and here, here's the. I mean the cast is just, just sick. Like, just incredible. Like Kramer, Kramer is one of the all time funniest dudes ever, like characters, no question. No question. I mean, his physical comedy was something I'd never seen before. I mentioned Jay Blues's Funny Bone. This is the only other guy I ever saw go Right to it. [01:02:46] Speaker B: Oh, oh, yeah. [01:02:47] Speaker A: When Kramer would do anything. [01:02:49] Speaker B: Yes. [01:02:49] Speaker A: I die. He would just. He would die. Me too. He's hilarious. By me. Of course. Jason Alexander and Julia Louis Dreyfus, you know, are geniuses in their own right as far as their characters. And Larry David, you know. Thank you for putting this whole show together. But what a rewatchable show. And, and before I let you talk about Seinfeld from your angle, this is about 15 years ago. The laugh track sitcom is kind of dead. And I'm watching this show, I'm watching a rerun back when I was living in the basement with my brother and the episode where, with Mel Torme, where Kramer, he thinks Kramer is special needs. And the credits are rolling at the end and Mel Torme singing to Kramer whose lip is numb from the dentist. And, you know, and he's just. And they think he's special needs. And they're singing, they're crooning a song to him. There's no comedy. He's just, I mean, obviously there is. He's singing the song to him. And Kramer's just reacting for, I want to say, like a solid minute and a half. It's just him on screen reacting to being sung at the, the laugh track in that scene. It's, it's not only infectious, not only do you want to laugh along with it, but they couldn't catch their breath. Like it was, it was, it wasn't a big exploding laugh. It was a sustained laugh that kept building and building and building. And it was like they were almost like. Because that show was risky. It really was. For the 90s, that show was risky. And I think they were half laughing. Oh, my God, we shouldn't be laughing at this. But. Right. But they were dying. Like, that's what that show did. Like episodes like the contest, you know, like, masturbation was not talked about on TV back then. Like, it just wasn't, you know, I mean, now you could, you could turn on anything and they're making a jerk off joke. [01:04:35] Speaker B: Like, right. [01:04:36] Speaker A: It wasn't done on TV back. It was done in movies. But you, you couldn't do an episode like that. And you know, of course, very Godfather. Like, they never mentioned the word masturbation. They never mentioned the word mafia and the Godfather, they never mentioned the word masturbation. So that's a genius in and of itself. I would put Seinfeld's best 10 episodes up against any sitcom ever, obviously, again, except maybe the Simpsons, which is a sitcom but not a laugh track sitcom. But I Mean, what else can I say about Seinfeld? Absolutely. Genius. What do you got? [01:05:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm trying to remember myself. I think I was like, I want to. I definitely was in eighth grade when we started watching this as a family. I know that it was like you said, every day at school, we go back down Friday and we'd all talk about the show. And it was definitely. I don't know what season that would have been in, but I was like, I want to say 93, 94. Somewhere around there. And early on then. Yeah, Yeah. I probably. Maybe season three or four, but maybe sounds right. Little bit. [01:05:29] Speaker A: Three is when it really sort of took off, I think. [01:05:31] Speaker B: But I didn't. I didn't know Seinfeld from a hole in the wall, you know, as far as being a comedian, I didn't know any of the actors really. And. Yeah, you know, it's one of those things where it's like. Like you said about, you know, again, being loving Mr. Bean, loving the John Ritter, loving the physical stuff. There's something about Crane, My buddy Joey, his brother John sends me these every now and then he'll send me some clip from. From CR Just. And with Kramer doing something. And I am just crying, laughing, because of course, I love all the physical, you know, and for some reason, the one where he's at the Tony Awards, he just stands in the back of the. On there with the picture and everything, like, with that stupid smile on his face. Like, he was like this wild card that was like. And again, maybe some people aren't into him. So I don't. But even though George and Jerry and Elaine gave you enough stuff to let. To make the show hilarious in its own. But he was like this loose cannon that was. Just Made it to me. It was like. It was just. I. [01:06:21] Speaker A: You couldn't. [01:06:21] Speaker B: I couldn't wait for him to come through the goddamn door, man, I got to say that. And, you know, just talking about the cultural thing, like you said, like, how many sayings came out of the show? Like, you know, these pretzels are making me thirsty. Yada, yada, yada. No soup for you. You know, you can go on and on. [01:06:34] Speaker A: It's never ending catchphrase after catchphrase. And I'll tell you what. Like, like Kramer's. He's Ed Norton, right? Like. Like, he's clearly modeled after, like, Ed Norton. You know, he comes in and he's got some stupid scheme he's doing. And, you know, and I remember Michael Richards talking about. And obviously, elephant in the room. We all know what Michael Richards did, and, you know, he got cancelled, so. [01:06:56] Speaker B: Yes. [01:06:57] Speaker A: But aside. [01:06:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:07:00] Speaker A: Good. Anyway, I just mentioned that. But all that aside, he. He said that when he. When he was playing Kramer, sort of, he was an oddball, but he was sort of straight man. Not straight man, but he was playing him sort of straight the first couple seasons when he clued in whether this is. It's not true, really, but he. In his mind, when you clued into the fact. Okay, I'm gonna play cranberry. Like, I know what's going on and everyone else is stupid. You know what I mean? [01:07:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:24] Speaker A: I'm the one who's keyed in, and you're all the ones who are not getting it. You know, I mean, when he started playing him like that, he said that's when it. That's when it clicked. I mean, and it's awesome. I think it's pretty genius. But yeah, with Seinfeld, like, it's one of those shows that, like, you know, the. The writing was. Was. Was brilliant, of course, but, you know, the shows were ridiculous. Like, every episode in a city as big as New York, they all dovetailed together at the end, no matter what was going on. Like, it. All the giant coincidence was going to happen at the end, but it didn't matter, man, because, like, it was so just. Just the. The. The. The way the actors played off of each other, you know, Jerry being the. The straight man who can barely act, who can barely keep a straight face, you know, made it funnier. Like George constantly freaking out, you know, Kramer coming in with it. I mean, it was. It just worked. I mean, it just worked. It just clicked, you know, and, you. [01:08:16] Speaker B: Know, they did so many clever things. They had the backwards episode that, you know, bizarro Jerry. There was so many cle. Different, you know, I don't know, ways of doing the show. And I think, you know, I was gonna say real, too. I felt bad for Michael Richards with all that thing went down. Obviously what he did was horrible. And it's like, what a shame that it never kind of really recovered from that kind of thing. Like, you know. Yeah, he never did, you know. [01:08:37] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, he's certainly. If there was a jail, if there was a celebrity jail, he's paid his price. [01:08:41] Speaker B: I mean, who knows? I mean, you would think. [01:08:44] Speaker A: But I mean, I mean, now those guys are. He's got to be close to 70, right? I mean, at this point, if not. [01:08:49] Speaker B: Yeah, but. But I was gonna say, too. It's funny, like, you know, My dad. I can't think of my dad laughing. If it wasn't the Three Stooges or Looney Tunes. The loudest I heard him laugh. A specific episode was when. When. When they pulled a golf ball out of the. [01:09:07] Speaker A: Sure. [01:09:07] Speaker B: A hole in one. Man, did he fucking roar. There's so many brilliant moments. And, you know, I was gonna say too, was unlike the Fraziers or Golden Girls or some of these other shows. Like, you know, there never really was any sentiment to the show. It was. They only really played it for laughs all the way through. And I loved that idea. You know what I mean? It was like, you know, we're just going for the laughs. [01:09:24] Speaker A: You know, that was one of the rules of the show. Like, they. They were irredeemable characters. [01:09:30] Speaker B: It's. [01:09:30] Speaker A: It's actually one of the. One of the cues that Always Sunny took from. From the sitcoms that came before. Can you name any other shows other than those two comedies where every character is completely morally just bereft? They're irredeemably bad people. And so. Well, I should say selfish people. You know what I mean? [01:09:50] Speaker B: Right. [01:09:50] Speaker A: Always Sunny is a lot like. That's why it was. When I first came out was called Seinfeld on crack. Because that. [01:09:55] Speaker B: That's that. [01:09:56] Speaker A: Because it was clearly like a Seinfeld type as far as the characters go. But the final episode. Do you remember where you were when you watched the final episode? [01:10:03] Speaker B: So you're never. You never gonna believe this. I had. I think I was in a play in high school. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I was in college at the time. I was at a community college. It was always. I was at either. I believe I was at Ocean County College at the time. The time I was in a play that night the show aired. I didn't see the final episode. I didn't see it till years later. [01:10:21] Speaker A: Wow. [01:10:21] Speaker B: So I missed out on all the. And all I kept hearing people was it was like. And it was this, it was that. So I was like, you know, and it wasn't like nowadays where it's easy to find. It was like if you didn't tape it, if no one taped it, you know, So I. I somehow I missed it and I didn't get back into it. So. But eventually I did watch it. And obviously it's not the same as it was at the time. So it was kind of like, you know, but I. I have seen it. Yeah. You know, but. Right. That was one of those things. Like, where were you when it was airing? Yeah. [01:10:45] Speaker A: The reason I'M asking is because it was, it was an event show. It's like for, for modern times. It's like, you know, Game of Thrones. Everyone watched the last episode of Game of Thrones. Everybody remembers what they were doing. This was the only sitcom in my life other than Cheers. We. I did do this for Cheers. I got together with a bunch of friends, we watched the final episode. But Seinfeld was an absolute freaking party, man. Like, I remember we went to Scooters and Howell. A bunch of us went there. We brought black and white cookies. They had a Kramer lookalike contest. I mean, they still have those, by the way. Like, you know, baseball stadiums have the Elaine dance competition. And like, they still have those. The cultural impact, like you said, cannot be underscored. [01:11:23] Speaker B: The devil's games always have. What's his name? The Devils. Real. The Devils, you know, running. [01:11:27] Speaker A: Oh, of course, yeah. Putty. Oh, David Putty. My God, Patrick Warburton, one of the best freaking recurring characters of all time is David Putty. For sure. [01:11:35] Speaker B: I was gonna say too just an offshoot thing that, you know, just being an old comedy fan there that, you know, back in the day, I'm going to Costello, made a lot of movies. Like the first one, I think was Abbottica Solomon. Meet Frankenstein was like the first meat movie. And they did like, then they did Abigast Ella, Meet the Invisible Man, I mean, Go Seller, Meet the Mummy. They did all these films. So Seinfeld, apparently there's a lot of like the verbal banter on his show. He said they were a big influence on him. And because they had a sitcom too abnormal for two seasons, it was mostly them just doing their sketches of their bits. [01:12:02] Speaker A: Right. [01:12:03] Speaker B: But so he did a little hour long special like right at the height of the show called Abbott Giselle Meet Jerry Seinfeld. And he kind posted it and, and showed clips of them and everything. I was not being pretty cool there, but. But that's the thing. It was, to me, it was like they kind of blended that old school comedy. There was a lot of. Not even from like the 30s. I'm talking about like even the 70s, like I said, with the, the John Ritter and you know, Ed Norton, like you said, John Ritter. Kramer is a lot of that, you know, and. [01:12:28] Speaker A: Sure. [01:12:29] Speaker B: And there was just so all around. To me, it was like you said, the actors were all brilliant, the writing was great and they, they were clever, they took chances. There was no, there was no. I don't know how. Like I said, it's shocking to me that someone could watch it. Unless they're just like, it was so popular, they. They're ignoring it or what, you know. [01:12:45] Speaker A: Or like I said, with. With the office space, it's. It's overhyped. So you watch it. You're like, I don't get it. [01:12:49] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [01:12:50] Speaker A: Okay, I'll give you that. Maybe. But like. And much like Frasier, they thumb their nose at a theme song. There's no. There's no opening theme. It's just the, you know, the. You know, and that's it. [01:13:01] Speaker B: Stand up in the beginning or whatever. [01:13:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And at least until the. The last three seasons, I want to say, didn't have him doing this. Yeah, right. They just had the cold opens. Usually it's Kramer and Newman, like, reading, you know, on the park bench or something. Some quick little thing which, you know, Newman, shout out. Love, Wayne. Yeah, so. Yeah, so, I mean, there's nothing that we could say about Seinfeld that, that if you haven't already heard, but there's a reason it's both mine and Bombers number one, man. It's. It's absolute genius. And if you. If you just want to laugh. If you just want to laugh your ass off and if you're old enough to remember the situations they're talking about, like. Like, I remember this show, they tried to syndicate it overseas and they syndicated this and Friends right around the same time. I want to say maybe Japan. Don't. Don't quote me on that. Somewhere overseas and Friends was an enormous hit. Seinfeld wasn't, because they didn't get a lot of the little things they were talking about. You know what I mean? These subtle little, as Elaine puts it, the excruciating minutiae of every daily event. Right. Like, yeah, when you break that stuff down, if you don't live in America or even in New York, you might not understand it, you know, but. Yeah, fortunately, we do. And. And we loved it. [01:14:11] Speaker B: Hey, you know, I'm. I'm with you. There's no other. I knew that was going to be on there, but, you know, I. I'm glad we had. We had to keep it in there and talk about it. What can we do? [01:14:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I didn't want to parrot sketch that one. I wanted to talk about Seinfeld. It's just so good. Definitely. Yeah. So that's. [01:14:25] Speaker B: That's. [01:14:25] Speaker A: I mean, did you have anything else to say about your. About Seinfeld? About the number one. [01:14:28] Speaker B: That's what we got. That's all I got for you. [01:14:31] Speaker A: Well, listen, folks, I don't know what we're doing next, but I can't wait to get it to you. And, you know we're looking forward to that, right? [01:14:37] Speaker B: Absolutely. I'm looking forward to it. We have a list of the topics we want to touch on or at least ideas for them. We haven't really picked one out or looked at that in a while, so. But unless one of you guys hits up with something else, we'll hit you up with something soon here. [01:14:49] Speaker A: So it did. Listen, thanks for listening, man. I hope you enjoy these sitcoms as much as we do. I hope you, you know, hear this and you're like, all right, maybe I'll check that out. Maybe I'll, you know, do that. Or like I said, send us. Send us your sitcoms. Tell us what we're missing, man. If Veronica's closets freaking balls out hilarious, you let me know. Maybe I'll start watching that. [01:15:07] Speaker B: Maybe I will, too. [01:15:08] Speaker A: Take it easy, Sam.