Remembering Patrick Stewart

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. Hey, hello out there and welcome to the Star Trek Warp Top 10 podcast. [00:00:18] Speaker B: And also welcome to the Men of a Certain Five podcast. How about that? [00:00:23] Speaker A: What's going on? This is, this is crazy, baby. We're first time ever we're combining both podcasts, which is just to say that we're gonna use this recording and put them out on both podcasts. We got a special, you know, special category today to talk about. So we figured why not, why not? It transcends both podcasts, right? What do you think? [00:00:43] Speaker B: Absolutely. You know, we have an actor here who obviously is known from Star Trek, but we feel like we could hop into a top five list and include them in the other pod and kind of blend them together and have a little fun. Why not? Right? What are we doing? [00:00:56] Speaker A: Yeah, it's an important, you know, we want to pay tribute to obviously Patrick Stewart. You know, you clicked on this, so you know what it's called, Patrick Stewart roles, I guess. But it's important. Remember he transcends Star Trek. He's not just Star Trek, man. Like we lost, [00:01:09] Speaker B: no doubt, [00:01:09] Speaker A: we lost a frickin legend last week. Truly one of the greats. And you know, he's not just Captain Picard, you know, he's not just Professor X. He's, you know, he's, he's, he's a lot of different things. We'll talk about some of that. We'll have some fun talking about Patrick Stewart today, remembering him and just giving him a little shoving, a little honor his way. What do you say? Bummer. [00:01:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. Well, before we, because I want to, you know, kick off some, some sentiments there myself, but how about we tell the folks where we can find this? We're all the social. Should we get that out of the way here? Hit him, hit him with it. [00:01:41] Speaker A: Yeah, it's great. So we got both pods on today. So if you want to check out the Star Trek Warp Top 10 podcast Social media content, we're trying to put more up as often as we can. You could check that out on instagram, threads and TikTok twarp10 and you can email [email protected] and if you want to check out some Men of a certain 5 content on social media, you could do that as well. You could also check us out on Threads, Instagram, TikTok, Men of a Certain Five. That's the number five. Or you can email us at Men of a Certain Five and that one is F I V E Gmail dot com. Give us a shout out, let us know what's going on? We'd love to hear your thoughts about Patrick Stewart. Sure. We're going to talk a lot about him on this pod, but we'd love to hear from you. So give us a shout out on either pod. And yeah, if you've only listened to the Men of a Certain Five and you're interested in checking out the Star Trek pod, you might want to do that. We have some fun on there. Bombers going through a Next Generation. We're breaking down each episode there in addition to doing our top tens here and there. And hey, if you're a Trek fan and you're listening to this, you want to hear some different content, check us out on man of a Certain Five. We break down top five everything. Movies, books, tv, sports, cartoons, historical figures. You, you name it, we do it. Bomber, we got two pods. We're gonna honor Patrick Stewart on both of them today. What are your thoughts? [00:02:58] Speaker B: Well, you know, I gotta tell you, you know, I know we talked about this on product, both pods there, but, you know, we had a great time at your brother's wedding there, Drew and Erica's wedding there. And, you know, I had hit up Joe, my buddy, I should say, you and Drew have made, had great friends over the years, I gotta tell you. So I was lucky enough to meet some of them and become friends too. I just put a text out to Joe, catch here, you know, Said said, hey, it was nice to see you and Kim and the family there and everything. And he hits me back with a text. He goes, hey, has anyone done a wellness check on Phil? How's he doing since Patrick Stewart passed away? So I thought that was kind of a, kind of a good question to kind of lead it in with you because I wanted to ask you, how are you doing? Because I feel like, you know, there's not a lot of these for me. I could think of where, you know, celebrities that we knew or we grew up with, when they go that hit you, I really have one that has really emotionally battle battered me just because a lot of my, A lot of the heroes I grew up with were long gone before I was even born. But, but as far as the ones that are living, you know, there's one or two that would probably destroy me. But what about this one? This had to be a big one for you. I mean, obviously for a lot of people. But I'm just saying, for you personally, what is your take here? [00:04:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, of course it sucked. You know, I, I know he was 86, but it seems like he was still trucking. You know, I thought we had some years left with Patrick Stewart, and obviously we. You know, we know he's Sir Patrick Stewart, and he's earned that. But we're not going to say this, sir every time. Just everybod. We wouldn't be able to do it every time. And I don't want to slow anything down. It's funny. Joey. Catch. Shout out. Joey. He. He said the same thing on another friend we have. He's like. He's like, oh, man, somebody better check in on film. And I saw that. And I tell you what, as soon as I saw that, I knew that it was Patrick Stewart. I don't know how. [00:04:38] Speaker B: No kidding. No [00:04:39] Speaker A: kidding. Well, here. Here's the reason why, too. Because whenever we talk about a celebrity or somebody who we all know who passed on on that one thread, we only say one word. Keisha. And the reason we do that, it's from New Jack City. So there's one scene where Wesley Snipes is adding up all the people in his posse who died, and he's like, keisha did the dutta man dead. You know, so ever since then, we've always been like, keisha, man. And so somebody says, keisha. We're all like, because, oh, somebody died. Who is it? Who is it? And we all got. We all get tense and we all wait. But he. Out of respect, maybe he didn't say that. Thank you know, he was just like, man, somebody better check on Phil. I guess he assumed I already knew. I might have heard it fast from somebody, but. [00:05:19] Speaker B: Right. I'll [00:05:20] Speaker A: tell you what, man. I was at work, and I'm not gonna lie. I'm just. Put this out there. It's. You know, he wasn't my grandfather. I didn't know the guy, but I cried a little bit. I'm not gonna lie. I was very upset. [00:05:30] Speaker B: I [00:05:30] Speaker A: knew that him and Harrison Ford and a few other select celebrities would be hard when they passed. You know what I mean? [00:05:37] Speaker B: Of course. [00:05:37] Speaker A: And look, let's get this out of the way now, too. Like, yeah, I realized that, you know, these people are celebrities. I never met the man. I don't know the man. Regrettably, I never met the man. I met a lot of Star Trek personalities, but I never got a chance to meet Patrick Stewart. And, you know, you just get attached when you're passionate like we are, dude. You just get attached. You know what I mean? Like, you get attached to. To stories, to people, to characters, to actors. You can't help it, you know? I mean, you Can't. You know, I got tons of friends who would think this is the dumbest thing in the world that I would ever cry over a celebrity, you know, dying. You didn't know the guy. But it's different for people like us, right? [00:06:12] Speaker B: No, I agree. You know, it's funny, I remember watching one of these Laurel and Hardy biography things. Sounds like A, E or one of those things. They had one of these years ago and one of the guys on there that they interviewed, he had written books on one of them. Or maybe, I don't know if it was Stan or Ollie, but you know, they were like, he's like, you know, every now and then, even though I've seen all the films, I know all the gags. I. I put them on just because I want to spend some time with the. These guys, my friends. And it was. The way he put it was. I was always like, it's so true. And I feel like I remember you. For you, this was always a big. Not only a Die Hard show for just Next Gen, just, you know, again, just to go to the Star Trek thing, but. But it was like a comfort thing for you, right? I mean, it was almost like. And you grew up with it with your father and everything. And so it's almost. There's so many emotional levels and not only that, but it's like, it's funny. Star Trek, Next Gen. I'm just think Generations. It's. You've got. It's not like, it's not like you've spent. Like I watched, you know, I watched the whole thing from beginning and I moved on to always those you spent decades watching. You know, I mean, this is a lot of time put in with the, with, with him and the whole crew and everything, you know. Sure. [00:07:12] Speaker A: You know, and you can't help but, you know, respect not just the actor, but the characters. It just is what it is, you know. You know, we. I think people like us have a heightened ability to dull our suspension of this, to en heighten our suspension of disbelief more than most people. Right. We can immerse ourselves in a story more than other people. You know, you'd mentioned my father. I mean, nobody could have died that he didn't know that he would have shed a tear for. He just wasn't into popular culture like that, you know, I mean, maybe the President or something. If Reagan had died when, you know, Hinckley shot him or something. No, I'm serious. Like, he might have been like. [00:07:46] Speaker B: He might [00:07:47] Speaker A: have been like, you know, upset for the country, but like, [00:07:49] Speaker B: right. My [00:07:50] Speaker A: dad didn't die when Sid C. Didn't cry when Sin Caesar died, you know, but, like, but my father was different, you know? You know, my. You knew my father, he didn't. He didn't watch movies and TV like that. He didn't. He wasn't obsessed with certain shows or movies. He watched him once, he liked it, moved on. If it was, you know, a Star wars movie or Star Trek, maybe he watched something more than once, but for the most part, he wasn't into it. People like us, it's a little different. And I'm saying people like us, meaning all of you folks out there, too. Like, if you're listening to this Star Trek podcast, then you probably have some of what Bomber and I have, you know, and. And even if you didn't, man, like, Patrick Stewart was. It was just. He was awesome. Like, I can't wait to talk about him, you know, honor him a little bit. Like, you know, it's. It's not going to be the same. Me personally, me watching any kind of entertainment, especially Star Trek, American Dad, X Men, it's not gonna be the same, of course, and for most people, I think that's true, but there was a little more there. [00:08:43] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, it's funny, you know, you. But you mentioning some of these other things, it's funny because you were like, can you come up with a top five for Patrick Stewart? I mean, you know, you know, the first two things that always pop into my head, probably, as most people is Star Trek and X Men, of course. But, you know, it's amazing how many other things this guy did, especially the voiceover stuff. I mean, it's amazing. Yeah. And obviously, obviously, he's a big theater guy too, as we know, but you talking about how many chances. I never got a chance to see him on the stage, you know, I mean, I mean, that had to be phenomenal, too. I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of people that have that experience, you know. [00:09:15] Speaker A: Oh, I can't imagine. And, you know, most people only know, like, a lot of people only know, like, the Shakespeare side of him. A lot of people only know, yeah, he was on Star Trip, but I know he's a Shakespearean actor, man. This dude had an amazing sense of humor. His comic timing was awesome. Like, we'll get into some of that. But I mean, he's. He's been all over my pop culture map, even, you know, Star Trek was first, obviously, for me. I mean, I saw him in Excalibur when I Was a kid, but once he was on Star Trek, I never sort of stopped following him. And he jumped up on all my favorite shit. Like, I can't wait to talk about it. And by the way, so the way we just. We threw this together last minute, so we were gonna record Patrick Stewart pod, but we didn't. It didn't occur to me, really, that it could transcend both pods. So I called Bomber like an hour and a half ago, and I was like, hey, if you have a top five, just put it together real quick. If not, we'll just talk about it. We'll just riff. So this isn't gonna be like an official blah, blah, blah, you know, I'm not worried about, you know, what order the 5 is in or not. I, of course I put together a [00:10:07] Speaker B: five [00:10:08] Speaker A: because I'm a psycho. But, yeah, I'm not worried about. We're just going to have a little. Have a little fun and talk about Patrick Stewart. That. That sound okay to you? [00:10:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I was gonna say, too. It's funny, like you said, talking about your dad, like, you know, different people or different things that, you know, if they had passed away, not, you know, it would hit him differently than it would hit you, like, like he's not gonna cry or like you said, somebody he had never met or whatever you want to say as far as, like, in the entertainment business or whatever, you know. But I was just thinking about how I think that, you know, there's people that are like us, where it's like, you know, like, we can't. Like, I have friends that are, like, fans of different things, you know, But I'll never see him wearing, like, a T shirt or doing, you know. But first, for me and you, I don't know. For me, it's like I have to go out and get every. Almost everything I can grab my hands on of, like, with the things that I love involved, you know, I mean, like, it's like we all. And I feel like I know people that are way more insane than me when it comes to certain things, you know, as we all do. You know, it's like. So it's. It's just everybody has their own level of fanaticism or whatever you want to say. I feel like. But I feel like when something like this happens, everybody has their own reaction to it as well. And I feel like for you, it's like you cry over it, you know, shed a few tears. It's like there's a part of me. It's like, you know, I. I mean, I understand completely that. That that would happen, I guess. You know what I'm saying? [00:11:29] Speaker A: I mean, I feel like it's the first time it has with a celebrity now I think about it, you know, like, in my life, you know, when you hear things like, you know, John Candy passed, or Robin Williams died, or. I mean, there's so many great ones, but, like, you know, some of my big ones, like I said, john Candy, Robin Williams, you know, When Phil Hartman died, I didn't really know how genius he was. I kind of got into Phil Hartman after the fact. I knew him from snl, and of course, I watched news radio, but not too much. I didn't really get into all the Phil Hartman stuff until after he passed. So that didn't affect me at the time. Now I lament like, oh, fuck, we really lost the genius there. But, [00:12:01] Speaker B: yeah, [00:12:01] Speaker A: you know, and I wasn't really into the original series when Leonard Nimoy died, and I think he died in 2014. And, you know, it's funny, A buddy of mine, Joe, I worked with at Pizza, he called me, and he was practically in tears over the phone. He was like, oh, my God, can you believe Spock died? I'm like, yeah, I hear you, man. And I totally got it, you know, but it just didn't. [00:12:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:18] Speaker A: Didn't hit me like that, maybe, because I kind of. This was kind of sudden. I know. It's not. Again, he was 86, but he didn't. He didn't reveal that he had, like, Alzheimer's, and. And I want to say Louis Body. He didn't. He didn't. And it was a quick, brief battle with dementia, and he just kind of. He just got taken from us, man. So it was just kind of pretty fast, you know what I mean? He had just finished doing a bunch of shit. I mean, just finished Doomsday, Right. So you don't think the guy's gonna die, you know, but. [00:12:45] Speaker B: And. And the Picard Show, I just ended not too long ago. I [00:12:48] Speaker A: mean, ended two years ago, but, yeah, still. [00:12:50] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. [00:12:51] Speaker A: Yeah. No, that's great. And I know he was eager to play the role again. Like, he wanted to. He wanted to keep playing, you know, Jean Luc Picard. So, you know, so we lost Professor X, we lost John Luke Picard. We lost. We lost a bunch. A bunch of other great characters and. And we lost a great man. You want to just dive in and talk about it or what? [00:13:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, you know, I gotta be honest. I don't really know anywhere near as much about him as you do. So, yeah, I mean, I would, you know, take it away. I mean, you know, where do you want to go? Well, you [00:13:20] Speaker A: know, you know, there's. There's. So there's a lot of. Too many roles to mention, right? Like, there's a lot of great stuff that he did that like. I know you'd know and, you know, and a lot of people would know. I'll give you an example. Like, at the height of Star Trek Next Generation, when the show was really starting to gain some popularity, Robin Hood men in tights came out, you know what I mean? And they wanted somebody to play that Sean Connery role that he played in Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves, right? King John, King Richard, the Lionhearter. He shows up at the end, you know, knock it off, you know, and of course, you know, Patrick Stewart took the reins in that. In that role. And it's funny, I don't think I had ever seen him do anything funny until I saw that movie. So I was like, oh, look at this. This is awesome. And of course, at the Eddie beams away, I think, you know, so it was like a. Obviously it was a Star Trek thing, but, you know, I knew he'd been on stage. I know he'd been a serious actor. But to see him, you know, joke around like that was pretty funny. But as far as we knew, the joke still could have been, hey, look at this Shakespearean actor doing something funny. So it could have just been him, you know, being a fish out of water. But the more you. The more you watch him, the more you realize, you know, there was more going on there because shortly after that. So just. I have a loose five, folks. So let's just talk about it. So my first number five. Yeah, it's like the voiceovers did Ellen Simpson's Family Guy Futurama, right? So. And don't worry, I'm getting to American dad later. Don't worry about it. So shortly after he did the Men and Men in Tights, he. He appeared on the Simpsons in one of the show's most popular episode called Homer the Great, where Homer realizes a secret society in Springfield and everyone. It's all based on a number system. And if you. If you're number 203, number 202 can tell you what to do. And of course, number one was played by Patrick Stewart. Apparently he started. He started the thing, you know, Course it's a clever little Star Trek in joke as well. He calls Riker number one. But I'm a Simpsons nut. I listen to all these commentaries and When I listen to the commentary for that episode, they were all like this. He knocked it out of the park. They had no idea it could be so funny. He had them rolling like. He was one of the best guest stars the Simpsons had ever had up to that point. And they all agreed on it. And you slowly learned that Patrick Stewart was a gamer dude. He was just like, he was just down for anything. He had all these, these great acting chops and this great, you know, theater street cred. But at the same time, he was just, I remember him saying an interview, one of his favorite TV shows was Beavis and Butthead. And he was being serious, you know what I mean? [00:15:44] Speaker B: Wow, that's great. [00:15:45] Speaker A: He just had a sense of humor. It's awesome. So he played number one on the Simpsons. He was so good on that. His voice is so distinctive. It's tailor made to be a voice. He could have never been an actor and still, you know, been a voiceover artist, right? What do you mean? [00:16:01] Speaker B: No doubt. I, I agree with that. 100. Yeah. And it's funny, like you said, like, I didn't realize how many different voiceover things he did until you. You know, first of all, just when I just started to think about it, you're like, oh, wow, wait a second. And then when you look it up, you're like, holy. Yeah. Wow. He did this. You know, I, I, when I looked up, I was like, let me see what I, I was like this, Holy. I didn't realize he forgot he did this. You know, it's amazing how many just voiceover he did. It's like, you know, [00:16:24] Speaker A: did a lot of voice voices on shows I never even heard of either. I was looking at his IMDb and he was teaching so many voices. I never heard he was the emoji movie. He did a voice. I didn't know any of that shit. You know what I mean? Stuff like that. [00:16:35] Speaker B: Right? [00:16:37] Speaker A: But like I said, number one on the Simpsons, on Future, on Family Guy. I know you, I know you've seen this episode. It's, it's one of my all time favorite episodes. I can't remember the name of it, but it's the one where, where he beams the entire cast of Next Gen into into his room. Stewie. [00:16:50] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, you did show. In fact, I've specifically seeked this episode out because you had told me about it. So [00:16:56] Speaker A: we talked about it on one of the Trek pods, the Trek parodies. The one, the first part you were. This was one of my top 10. And it's so, it's so good. So he's, so he's playing himself on, on, you know, Family Guy and he also does the voice of Susie Swanson, Joe's baby on her internal monologue on, On Family Guy. And he's done a few other voices here and there on, on Family Guy and then on Futurama he's done at least one voice. He did a, he did the voice of the hunt master. It was, it was like a season, I want to say nine episode of Futurama came out in like 2012 where he was just like, it was called 31st Century Fox was the name of the episode. And, and they were hunting, you know, they were hunting these, these foxes and blah, blah. He was just, he was the lead guy, was the hunt master, you know. So he's, he's had his hand in like all of my animated shows. He's, he's been all over that. But the Family Guy is probably the best where he's just like, he's saying the dumbest. He's yelling at the other cast members. He's slapping Wesley Crusher in the face, you know, or you know his name. How can I [00:18:01] Speaker B: forget Wesley? Well, Wheaton. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:18:04] Speaker A: So, yeah, so just number five is just a shout out to all the voiceover work he does. But like I said, I got another voiceover character coming later because he was just too much a part of that show for me to not. It's for me to lump him in with Simpsons, Family Guy and Futurama. So other than, so you remember the Family Guy voiceover? Like, do you remember any other voiceovers he's ever done? [00:18:24] Speaker B: Well, so it's funny you say that. So when I looked this up, because I was, I made this kind of like my number five as well. I, I was like, I remembered the Family Guy ones of course, so I had to include that. But there's, there's two on here. One of them I definitely remember. And I was like, I can't believe that I didn't think of this for all the time I was Ted. [00:18:38] Speaker A: Oh yeah, right. He was the narrator or something, [00:18:41] Speaker B: right? Narrator. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Which was hilarious. I remember when I saw that movie, I thought that was hilarious right off the bat. I was like, you know, perfect. Like, just like I said, like the fact that you think of him being like this regal guy doing a stupid ass movie with a goddamn teddy bear, like, I love the whole idea was hilarious. Well, [00:18:57] Speaker A: that's the, that, that, that's the initial grab, right? The initial grab is like, oh, my God, I can't believe they got this guy. It's like when. Like Werner or Herzog. Did you know a Family Guy or American Dad? Like, it's like, how'd they get this guy to do a voiceover on this show? You know? [00:19:09] Speaker B: Yeah, it's [00:19:10] Speaker A: awesome. That's inherent comedy right there. But then he just takes it to another level, man. He just takes to the moon. [00:19:16] Speaker B: And I did. I did see that. He was. I never saw this movie, but I guess he obviously has a relationship with Set McFarlane, as you said. I've never watched American dad, so you'll get to that. But he did. I never saw that movie. How you. Many ways to Die in the West. [00:19:28] Speaker A: Yeah, he was the narrator of that too, I think. [00:19:31] Speaker B: Okay, there you go. Okay. But there was another one I saw. I don't know if you were a big Turtles fan. I [00:19:37] Speaker A: saw. He was in that. I liked the original movie and I watched the cartoon a little bit when I was a kid, but I didn't see anything other than [00:19:43] Speaker B: that you were probably. You were probably facing that. Me and my brother. That was like our prime. You just [00:19:47] Speaker A: little younger than me. [00:19:48] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah. So we definitely saw the original movie. I think we saw like three times. Well, [00:19:52] Speaker A: that was a great movie, dude. I love that movie. [00:19:53] Speaker B: It was. It was awesome. And then, in fact, I might have seen all three of them in the movie theater. But that one I saw three times, definitely. But. But later on that. Now we're talking like 2000, whatever it is. 7, 8, 9. Somewhere around they had this, like, animated. I don't know how to describe it. It was just called tmnt. And he does a voice in that. I have to be honest. I saw it in the movie theater and I have to tell you, I really liked it a lot. I haven't seen it since, so I don't really remember the movie. I. I remember liking the movie. I don't remember him specifically. You said [00:20:20] Speaker A: it was [00:20:21] Speaker B: animated. It was animated. It was like. I don't say. It was like a computer. Oh, [00:20:25] Speaker A: was it the one with. With Megan Fox? [00:20:29] Speaker B: I am. I [00:20:30] Speaker A: remember they tried to reboot it. [00:20:32] Speaker B: No, this wasn't that. This was all animation. Okay, [00:20:35] Speaker A: gotcha. [00:20:35] Speaker B: Okay. Actually, I'll tell you this. Casey Jones was voiced by Chris Evans. How about that? [00:20:39] Speaker A: Nice. [00:20:40] Speaker B: And Sarah Michelle Geller was April o', Neill. But Patrick Stewart just did a guy named Winters. I don't know who that is. [00:20:48] Speaker A: No, I think I saw that IMDb, but I didn't know who it was, [00:20:52] Speaker B: so that's why I was like, I kind of like honorable mention because I saw it, but I don't really remember it. Like, like you remember Ted. You remember the Family Guy once, but this one. But I remember liking the movie. I'm kind of curious to go back and check that out. Yeah. But yeah, so I threw that in there. Those are the voiceovers that I saw that I remembered was other ones you wanted to try. [00:21:07] Speaker A: I mean. Yeah. Later on. And I got a couple honorable mentions too, just for the sake of it. Because know I'm anal and I gotta do it. But in the meantime. So another great role he played my number four is he played Alistair Burke on Frasier. Right. This was only a one shot. He was only in one episode and it was the last season, season 11. So it was around 2004, I guess. I think it ended the same year Friends did. But he played, he played this gay theater, like big wig, you know, someone famous that Niles and Frazier couldn't help but like be, you know, attracted to. So. And I, I just disclaimer. I get that this might be considered in poor taste nowadays, but because he's playing a gay man and he's not gay, blah, blah, blah. But for whatever it is, 2004, he's playing this gay guy, Alistair Burke, and he becomes enamored with Frasier. And Frasier thinks it's just like a friendship, but everyone else around him is like, dude, he thinks you're his boyfriend. So the whole time, like, Frazier's like sort of mentally denying that he's dating, you know, Patrick Stewart, but. [00:22:10] Speaker B: Right. [00:22:11] Speaker A: It's, it's a, it's an amazing performance. Patrick Stewart looks like he's having the most fun he's ever had in his life playing this part. It's an amazing episode. I think it's, it's got a nine something rating on IMDb so it's, it's probably one of the best episodes of that season. One of the best of the show, really. It's so funny. It's worth checking out. It's called the Doctor Is Out. If anybody's a Patrick Stewart fan, you haven't seen this episode. Definitely check it out in season 11. And it's just, it's hilarious. [00:22:38] Speaker B: Yeah, it's funny. I, I remember when Frasier came out, we, you know, me and my family were Die Hard with Frasier Seinfeld. We always watched. And then when I went to college, I stopped because I was involved with too many other shit or I was, you know, I wasn't, I didn't do the routine Thursday nights or whatever the hell. So I had stopped at certain point, and I have not gotten back one day. I would like to do that. But I loved Frasier, so I. That. I definitely missed that because it was passed when I was [00:23:03] Speaker A: so worth it. It's so good. I think it was number three on my list, right. Laugh track, sitcoms or whatever. It's. It's so good. It's. I actually just started watching it again. I. I take. I took off like four or five years, I haven't seen it, and I probably watched the whole show like 12 times, but I'm ready for another go, so. [00:23:17] Speaker B: Wow. [00:23:18] Speaker A: I just started with season one again. It's just so good. There's no bad seasons. No, [00:23:21] Speaker B: it's great. It's great. It [00:23:23] Speaker A: just keeps getting good, you know, it's a little more melancholy this time around with the passing of John Mahoney. I know it was a few years ago, but. [00:23:29] Speaker B: Yeah, but I [00:23:30] Speaker A: don't think I've watched it straight through since then. Maybe I have, but as far as I know, another great actor, but. Yeah, so he was awesome on that. It was awesome on. On Frasier. Definitely worth checking. [00:23:39] Speaker B: Hilarious. Do [00:23:40] Speaker A: you have a. Do you have a number four? [00:23:42] Speaker B: Well, you know, I. I threw my number four. I did throw men in tights in there. Yeah, [00:23:46] Speaker A: of course. Yeah. [00:23:47] Speaker B: So, you know, just like you said, it was a very memorable. You know, and again, it's funny too, because you think about Mel Brooks, it's like, you know, I'm trying to think of how to say, like the. The fact that he got some of the people he got to do do these things. It's just amazing. You know, it's [00:24:02] Speaker A: probably his last great movie, too. Really? [00:24:05] Speaker B: Yeah. I. I probably would have to agree with you on that. [00:24:07] Speaker A: Hopefully not his last. We'll see what Spaceballs has in store for us. [00:24:11] Speaker B: Curious, I was gonna say. That's the other thing, too, is I haven't gone back to that, the Robin Hood one anywhere near as many times as, like, you know, Young Frankenstein or Spaceballs or even Silent Movie for me, Like, I. I don't know why. I mean, I. I do love it. I have to go back and hit it again because it is. I mean, you have, you know, if you get all these years, you have Richard Lewis in there. It's insane. [00:24:33] Speaker A: I have a mole. And I love Patrick Stewart's line, right when he's like, from now on, all toilets shall be called John's, [00:24:44] Speaker B: which is like, you know, again. Again, because I was like, You. When I remember watching it, I was like, you. I was like, you know, I didn't really know him at all doing the comic stuff, so to watch him do that was priceless. Been [00:24:54] Speaker A: like, [00:24:54] Speaker B: what? [00:24:56] Speaker A: Dom DeLuise was awesome in that movie. Like, there's so many great cameos in that movie. Love Dom DeLuise and even Dave Chappelle. Could you talk about a young Dave Chappelle popping up with that [00:25:07] Speaker B: one? I know, it's wild, [00:25:08] Speaker A: man. I didn't say. I didn't say Abe Lincoln. I said, hey, blinking. Love it. Oh, man. Yeah, [00:25:18] Speaker B: yeah, Definitely [00:25:18] Speaker A: gotta [00:25:19] Speaker B: go. [00:25:22] Speaker A: Like I said, it was a weird first time I saw him like that too. And I was like, wow, this is. Okay, cool. Captain could do other things, you know. [00:25:28] Speaker B: Yeah, totally. And I was gonna say, too, real quick, before you go on there, like, this was, you know, I know you mentioned Spock. As far as, like, the big guys in Star Trek, especially even captains, this is like the first major captain to. To go, right? [00:25:41] Speaker A: I suppose so, yeah. I mean, and listen, we. We shouldn't. We shouldn't go this far without talking about Walter Canning as well. So, you know, Chekhov just died as well recently, and, you know, it's largely going to be overshadowed by Patrick Stewart. And I get why, and I understand why, and certainly I was more into Next Gen than I was the original series, but Walter Caning, hey, man, he's an og. And the only one. The only ones left are Sulu and Kirk, now George Takei and. And William Shatner, the only two from the original series who were left alive. So it's. It's getting crazy. [00:26:12] Speaker B: And who did Walter Kane play on the [00:26:13] Speaker A: Chekhov? He played the role that Anton Yelchin, who also passed away. [00:26:18] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. [00:26:18] Speaker A: Played in the new movies. So he wasn't on every. Every episode. He was in a handful, probably 20 or 30, maybe not even that much, but he was in all the movies. He, you know, he became one of the. One of the ones that they considered part of the core when they kept bringing it back for the movies. So him, you know, Uhura, Scotty and Sulu weren't in every episode of the original series. Ohura was in a lot more than the others, but Bones, Spock and Kirk were pretty much in all of them, but for the most part. Doesn't mean, you know, it's any less so, you know, shout out to Walter Canning, man, rest in peace. We're gonna miss Chekhov, you know, so it is what it is. But, yeah, so, yeah, he's the first Captain, I think, I think you said that correctly. Jeffrey Hunter is still technically, I guess he was the first. [00:27:03] Speaker B: Yeah, but, but again, he was only the one off, right? I mean, it wasn't [00:27:05] Speaker A: correct. He was the one off. And it's amazing how much, how much longevity they got out of that one character. Right? It's amazing. Spun off into his own show. He was on Discovery. Crazy. [00:27:18] Speaker B: And I, I think I've mentioned this many times that I'm a big fan of the John Wayne movie called the Searchers. Hunters in that. And I had listened to. There's a podcast called the Cinephiles. I had listened to. They, they dive into some movies, they kind of go, you know, scene by scene. They then went on the surgeries and they were talking about Jeffrey Hunter. They mentioned that, they talked about Star Trek and everything too, but. But they met the fact that he died very young. I didn't realize how young he was when he died. Jeffrey Hunter, was [00:27:39] Speaker A: that right? I didn't know that either. [00:27:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Wait, [00:27:42] Speaker A: how young was he? Is that why they replaced him with a different actor in, in one of the old school shows, there was an original series episode called the Menagerie in which a third actor, well, a second actor at the time played Captain Pike. He's been played by four different actors now, at least between Bruce Greenwood in the Chris Pine movies and, you know, Anson Mount, of course, who's really made it his own on strange new worlds starting in Discovery. But is that, I wonder if that's why he, he was, he was recast. [00:28:12] Speaker B: Well, it's funny. So I decided to look this. He was 43 when he died. [00:28:16] Speaker A: Does it say the year [00:28:17] Speaker B: it says he died? 1969. And the Star Trek pilot was 1965. [00:28:22] Speaker A: Okay. No, so he was, he was still around for. Maybe he didn't want to reprise his role. I guess, [00:28:26] Speaker B: maybe, yeah. [00:28:27] Speaker A: Anyway, who knows? Yeah, it's a shame. Say, rest in peace Jeffrey Hunter, you know, but [00:28:31] Speaker B: yeah, geez. Well, [00:28:32] Speaker A: let's get back to our man. So back to Patrick Stewart, [00:28:35] Speaker B: number three, what do you got? [00:28:36] Speaker A: I mean, number three is a big one. You might be surprised. This is going to be Professor X for me. So number three is Professor Xavier, man. Like, this was one of those. Like this was one of those. When you heard it was cast, you were like, yes. Yeah. Like everyone was like, no, no doubt, [00:28:52] Speaker B: 100. This [00:28:52] Speaker A: is his role. I love that. Like he not only brings the physical look of. Because of course he does. Right. But like just the way the type of person, slash actor that he was they knew, you know, I'm assuming Brian Singer was the one who had, you know, or whoever at Fox decided to, whoever the casting director was. But I'm sure Singer was involved. They must have been like, oh my God. It was almost like the Nick Fury, you know, Samuel L. Jackson thing. [00:29:20] Speaker B: Yeah, [00:29:21] Speaker A: I mean Nick Fury was white, of course, for many years, but then when they did the Ultimates in the, I want to say earlier mid-2000s, the act, it was pretty much drawn like it was Samuel Jackson. There was no question about it. So like when the time came to cast him in the mcu, there's no question about it, but this was a no brainer, man. This was like, you gotta have Patrick Stewart as Professor X. He has played this role. I didn't add it up, but I'm sure he's played this role at least five or six times that I could think of off the top of my head. The three original X movies. Logan, Doctor Strange 2, that's a five right there. And Doomsday. You count that as six, but I'm sure there's another one I'm missing. I'm forgetting. I'm sure he did a cameo somewhere or did something, but he was Professor X, man. He brought that, he brought that, that, you know, that fatherly gravitas to like, you know, that role. Like something that everybody needs. The wise, like I said, father figure that like, you know, these wayward kids with these powers they can't control sort of need. He just, yeah, this is his role. Was his role and what else he got. [00:30:25] Speaker B: No doubt. I, I, I, I was gonna say it's funny because I didn't read a lot of X Men growing up as when I was a kid. It's funny because I used to read Wolverine. They had, Wolverine had his own. Oh yeah, I would read that, but yeah, that read that, but so I knew Professor X mostly. I did watch the Saturday morning cartoon X Men show that was like whatever it was early 90s. I [00:30:44] Speaker A: never watched [00:30:45] Speaker B: that. And so I kind of really knew Professor X mostly from that. So it's like, you know, just like you, I'm trying to think of another act like, you know, the Samuel Jackson when you brought up is definitely a good example, but I didn't really know the Nick Fury character all but I can't think of another person that was like. So when you heard, like you said, like you said, it was like, who else would you, I mean, what a perfect. Well, [00:31:08] Speaker A: in the comics world, two other names come to mind, right? Robert Downey Jr. As Iron man and Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool. Right. Those are the only two other ones that I can think of that are on par with like, holy yes. When we all heard Robert Downey Jr. Was going to be cast as, as Iron Man. Anyone who knew Iron man from the comics, and I didn't know him that well, but I knew him well enough to know that was brilliant. Great casting. They both had the character and the actor both had issues with substance abuse. [00:31:32] Speaker B: Yeah. You [00:31:33] Speaker A: know, in the comics, Iron man had his issues. So like, it made total sense. And then, you know, Ryan Reynolds created, you know, pretty much made the movie himself. So I mean, he always wanted to play Deadpool. He's the perfect personality for it. Good on him. But yeah, Professor X Men. [00:31:48] Speaker B: Yeah, it's funny because the cartoon, it made me think of like, he looks like, you know, kind of like a mean, a little bit of a meaner Patrick, but [00:31:56] Speaker A: he's much darker in the comics for sure. He's got, he's got secrets that he, that he, that a lot of the X Men don't know until they come out. And then it's like what the. Charles [00:32:06] Speaker B: and he. I was obviously gonna say real quick too, man, Robert Downey Jr. I think that, I gotta be honest, I think that one that casting alone is, I think, propelled the whole cinematic universe into really being what it became. No [00:32:18] Speaker A: question about [00:32:18] Speaker B: it. Really. That changed everything. [00:32:20] Speaker A: Iron man had no business being as popular as it was at the time. He was a B or C, like a second or third tier character. Like, he really wasn't like, yeah, if you're into Marvel and you're like, are you kidding me, Arman? Like, I get it, I get it. But like in my mind, like Spider man, you know, Captain America, Hulk Nab and Thor. X Men, like they're top tier character. Fantastic Four. Anyone else was kind of a, you know, a rung below for me. And I think Iron man fell into that category, to be honest. But he nailed it. The movie nailed it. Thank you, Jon Favreau. Thank you, Robert Downey Jr. Thank you, Marvel. And it just took off and you know, 30, whatever, eight movies later, we have ourselves a fucking franchise. But yeah, I mean, it all hinged on him. And that's, and that's how like vital like an actor can be. I'm not saying Patrick Stewart would have made or broke the X Men, but like, it would have been less if he wasn't in it, you know. [00:33:11] Speaker B: Well, I was gonna ask you. This is a whole nother thing now is because I remember we've talked about this many times on the pots. Like the whole way that all of it came together with Infinity War and. Or whatever you call it. [00:33:22] Speaker A: Endgame. What [00:33:22] Speaker B: is that? Endgame? Yeah, [00:33:24] Speaker A: yeah, you got them both. [00:33:26] Speaker B: The I specifically end game is with the amount of people at the end of that battle. I could think myself, was it something with the rights with like Sony or something that the X Men weren't involved? Because I think result. Could you imagine if the X Men were in the middle of all that? Like, how many more people could you get on the screen? I [00:33:39] Speaker A: know, it's so true. Fox, there was a thing with Fox, Sony, Sony is Spider Man. Fox was X Men and the Hulk. That's why for a while we didn't see a solo Hulk movie as well after [00:33:52] Speaker B: Ed Norton, [00:33:53] Speaker A: Incredible Hulk, after they became Marvel Studios. You know, it would have been a thing to make a Hulk movie anyway. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Who else could you fit in? I mean, I feel like Secret wars is going to be everything we saw on Endgame and then X Men, Fantastic Four, Doom and everybody else. But. But we'll see. We'll see how closely they follow the comics. [00:34:10] Speaker B: But. But it would have been awesome to see, you know, Patrick Stewart and another one is Hugh Jackman. Wolverine. That's another good one. Oh, [00:34:17] Speaker A: phenomenal. [00:34:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Played Wolverine. [00:34:18] Speaker A: Yeah. We didn't know at the time, but I mean, he, he really embraced it. Gotta love it. [00:34:23] Speaker B: Yeah. I [00:34:24] Speaker A: feel like it also gave Patrick Stewart, the actor, like, not that he was doing fine after Star Trek, you know, in 2000, they had just done the third. They did the third next gen movie in 98, Star Trek Insurrection. So he has this series, he's super pop, super popular. He's. They do three feature films which, you know, do moderate, moderate success. You know, in Star Trek terms, it was enough to get a fourth one in 2002. But this really gave him a whole nother life. Like, if anybody only knew him as Jean Luc Picard. Now it's like, oh, now he's. Now he's Professor X. You know what I mean? [00:35:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:03] Speaker A: It's funny, I think when, when John Adams texted the group after he'd passed and he was like, hey, if you knew him as Captain Picardi, you knew him as Professor X man. He's, you know, he's rest in peace, you know, and that's so true. Like, to the average person, he's probably at 50, 50. He's probably a bit of both, you know what I mean? To comic fans, he's obviously gonna be Professor X and the track fans. He's going to be, you know, Jean Luc Picard, but there's enough for everybody out there. And it gave him a nice second life again. Not that he needed it, but I know he loved playing both parts. He said so in multiple interviews. He embraced the fan base in, In. In, you know, all these franchises. He, you know, he handled all that well. But I mean, how else? The guy was so. So graceful. Like, he was just so. So mature. So it was just perfect. Like, you know, he's gonna handle this just like any and, you know, like nobody else does, you know, he's gonna handle it so well. [00:35:56] Speaker B: And it's funny, you know, I didn't think of it till you're saying that it's funny. There's some. Some actors that are lucky enough to become iconic for one character or one role, you know, but he's got two, you know, trying to. Like Harrison Ford, Sylvester Stallone. How many people can you name that? You know, when you think of them, you're gonna think, you know, are you thinking Rocky? You're thinking Rambo? You know what I mean? Like, he's got two that are. That are. That are on a mountain. [00:36:20] Speaker A: You're dead, right? And that, that, that. That's a. Like. Like, you're, like, you're illustrating. That's a really exclusive list. Like, who would have thought, like, when Harrison Ford became, like, you know, Han Solo after Star Wars. When did Raiders come out? 81. [00:36:34] Speaker B: Came out in 81. [00:36:35] Speaker A: So he had had Star wars and Empire under his belt before Raiders came out. Right. So he's already kind of iconic. He's already playing this great franchise. And all of a sudden now I would even argue that Indiana Jones is even more iconic than Han Solo because, you know, it's. It's pretty much him standing alone. Right? [00:36:50] Speaker B: Not. Right. Like, [00:36:51] Speaker A: in any franchise where you're not the most iconic character, you know, Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker, you know, like, you can't really put that ahead of Indiana Jones, for Christ's sake. But some of these actors get lucky with that, right? I remember Michael Keaton was doing an interview for Batman before it came out, and he was like. He was like, yeah, I was. You know, I was. I was Mr. Mom for a little while. People would call me Mr. Mom on the street. Then I was Johnny Dangerously. And then people started calling me Beetlejuice. And now I'll just. I'll be Batman, you know, I mean, like, he, like, he had this streak of like, four characters in a row where like people identified him as, you know, Michael Keaton is Mr. Mom, you know, kind of like, like that. So some actors get lucky with that and some actors don't like it. I know where you were going there. Like some actors don't want to be, you know, sort of pigeonholed into certain roles. Typecast, [00:37:37] Speaker B: right. [00:37:38] Speaker A: You know, I'm sure there are Trek actors who felt like that. Most of them have enough class not to say anything, but Patrick Stewart wasn't one of them. Matter of fact, I just saw on my feed, I'm going through Tick Tock and it's, of course, it's all Patrick Stewart right now. So that's all I'm seeing. And, and him, and William Shatter did a movie called I want to say the Captains or something a few years ago, and he went to London and he had an interview with Patrick Stewart and they're talking about Star Trek. And Patrick Stewart said, I'm going to, you know, misquote him. He said something to like, you know, if I go and I'm only remembered as Jean Luc Picard, he's like, I'd be totally fine with that, you know. And Shatner, who's always resisted his sort of Trek fandom, like in the moment was like, you know, I, I, I, I kind of. Right now, you saying that kind of makes me feel like, I feel like I'd be fine with that too if I'm only remembered as Captain Kirk, no problem, right? And you know, yes, it's pride in Star Trek and pride in those roles, but it's also like they realize they're a part of something huge that won't die. You know what I mean? Like, like they're, they're, they're, they're cemented in legend now. You know what I mean? Doesn't matter if it's a, it's a subsect of fandom. Like, you know, if you're fucking Captain Kirk, dude, like, you're, you're, you're set for life. And Lord knows He was T.J. hooker and Rescue 91 1. And he did all these other things too. It's not, you know, he was Denny Crane. He was great on Boston Legal, you know, but like, and the man went to Space Buddies. Look, you're always gonna be Captain Kirk and he's, I think he's finally fine with that. I think it's pretty cool. It's like Spock, right? I'm Spock, I'm not Spock. He wrote like both books, you know. [00:39:14] Speaker B: Yeah, sorry, [00:39:15] Speaker A: I'm talking my Ass off. My bad. [00:39:16] Speaker B: No, no, please. I was just thinking like, you know, if you're Tyler Perry, you're Medea, you know, that's. You don't want to find another legacy there. You know, Am I wrong here? I mean, what are we doing? [00:39:28] Speaker A: It's funny. Speaking of future American dad, there's a great joke where Roger's like. He said something and like his last line was like, yeah, I did that. Tyler Perry's movies are actually good before I get my hands on them, you know. You ever see a Tyler Perry's movie? I've only seen one. It wasn't bad, [00:39:44] Speaker B: to be honest. Yet I. I am sure. I've never. I never have, but I am. I have to tell you, I've always been curious because the guy's very successful. I mean, he's still, you know, he's. You know, he's got his own studio and everything else isn't him. And you know, [00:39:54] Speaker A: he does. And he was in. He was in Star Trek too. Of course. He's in the Chris Pine movie. He was. He was the. [00:39:59] Speaker B: That's right. That's right. He [00:40:00] Speaker A: was the guy who was holding his hearing. He's a big Star Trek fan. So he. I've only seen Death at a Funeral is the only Tyler Perry movie ever seen. It was very funny. Starring Cyclops himself to bring it back to X Men. James Marsden was in it. [00:40:12] Speaker B: Wow. [00:40:13] Speaker A: I think he got like a. Like super high or something. And he was like the white boyfriend to the black woman or something. Like was it all black funeral? Is it. You know, [00:40:20] Speaker B: I have to check it out. Sounds. [00:40:21] Speaker A: It was kind of. It was funny. I remember watching it in down. And I think I watched down in Florida with Jane Karen. I think we watched. Was very funny. But. [00:40:28] Speaker B: But I was gonna say real quick, it's funny when you're talking about everything you talked about before with the whole Kirk, you know, and the legacy thing was that again, not knowing the show as you guys do, you know, I. I'll tell you what. When I. We saw that the 2009 one there in the movie theater, you know, it's funny because I remember. You know, we'll get to, you know, my thoughts on the next part. I know we're doing Patrick's Door now, but I want to talk about my man Jack on his top 10 list there. That was phenomenal job we got. We gotta give. [00:40:58] Speaker A: Oh yeah. Jack Lanner, you did a great job, buddy. [00:41:01] Speaker B: But one thing I gotta say, and I don't know if this is a generational Thing because I thought it was interesting that he said he wasn't a fan of that. He didn't like that movie. And I gotta tell you that I thought that 2009 Star Trek war was, Was unbelievable. And I think that the coolest thing about it was watching, you know, the whole thing, especially Chris Pine being Kirk is. I'm like, I, you know, I love the fact that he was kind of like an out, you know, you know, a wild card as a human and all this stuff. And he winds up leading the whole battalion. And I'm like, I just made me love the character of Kirk so much watching that, where I'm like, I wonder what it was like an original show. And I'm like, you know, and I'm thinking about, no matter what happens here, you know, Captain Kirk is Shatner, you know, like, at the end of the day, that's who he is, you know, and you have that, that's pretty amazing to have, no [00:41:44] Speaker A: question [00:41:44] Speaker B: doing here, you know, and, and you had the same thing with Picard doing this. It's like, you know, having, you know, and I gotta say, I know we'll get there. We're gonna. Obviously we'll get to the Star Trek thing down the line. But I did think that again, just being an outsider, not being as Die Hard as you guys, when they made that movie where they met, that's pretty. That was a pretty cool. That [00:42:01] Speaker A: was so cool. Huge Star [00:42:02] Speaker B: Trek moment. [00:42:03] Speaker A: Seen a lot of those on my feed now, too. That scene between them on the horseback and stuff, it was, it was good. Looking forward to you revisiting that after you watch the show, you know? [00:42:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, definitely. [00:42:11] Speaker A: It's really good. Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's good stuff, man. It's really good stuff. Do you have something for your number three? [00:42:18] Speaker B: I do. You know, actually, Luke is the. Our buddy. Luke is the one that reminded me of this because I had, you know, I don't know. You know, I, I don't know if you were a big. I've always been a. I don't want to say a nerd, but in a way, kind of a nerd. When it comes to Christmas. I love. I've always been a. You know, I always feel like a little kid at Christmas time. Same thing, you know. And I, I love all the specials. I try to watch new movies I've never seen before. So now we have the Johnny Depp Ebenezer movie coming out. I'm looking forward to checking that out. So, So I did get around to Eventually. How many years ago now. Checking out the Patrick through A Christmas Carol. So I do want to revisit that again now that I. But I do remember liking it, so I had to put that number three. I [00:42:56] Speaker A: remember you telling me about that, actually. [00:42:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Because I thought. I thought it was an interesting, you know, casting or choice to do. Because I'm like, he's not someone you would initially, for me anyway, I would never have pictured him as an Ebenezer Scrooge kind of a character. You know what I'm saying? Interesting, because I feel like I've always thought of him as like a cool, nice, you know. You know, intelligent, peaceful person. I don't know. You know what I mean? [00:43:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:23] Speaker B: Not like someone that's like, you know, gonna be this, you know, miser. I don't know. I [00:43:27] Speaker A: guess for me, he always felt a little like Dickensian, you know, he always felt like he was a little old school British. [00:43:32] Speaker B: I agree with that. You got a point there. No doubt. So [00:43:34] Speaker A: I kind of. When I saw it, I thought it was perfect fit. But then again, I also probably knew him a lot better on Next Gen at the time. So I was like, oh, yeah, that he could do that. No question about it. Especially since he talks about Shakespeare all the time on the show and blah, blah, blah. Not that it's Shakespeare wrote Christmas Carol. You know what I mean? [00:43:48] Speaker B: No doubt. I mean, there was like. I know Joel Gray was in it. I thought his character was a little weird there. [00:43:54] Speaker A: I never found him to be a great actor, to be honest. Joel Gray. [00:43:57] Speaker B: I mean, he's [00:43:58] Speaker A: very strange. [00:43:59] Speaker B: I saw it on Broadway, but I never saw the. The movie. Well, [00:44:02] Speaker A: I know he won the Oscar for it, too. [00:44:04] Speaker B: He did. [00:44:04] Speaker A: And I think he's. When I see actors like that, I think they're riding that Oscar pretty long way. But again, I've only seen him in a couple things. He was actually in an episode. A couple episodes of Buffy where I was just kind of like, yeah, all right. You know, maybe [00:44:17] Speaker B: even I. When I saw it on Broadway, Brook Shields was in the lives of Minnelli role. And I can't remember who played his role, but. [00:44:23] Speaker A: Nice. [00:44:23] Speaker B: But, yeah, I. Again, I. I like the movie, his version of Christmas Carol. And I thought it was. Again, it was. It's one of those things where it's like, he's almost bigger than the movie because it's like when it comes to something like that, we all know the story. So now it's just about. Now you're only watching. How are they doing the Ghost differently, you know, and at the end of the day, the most. The number one thing is, how is the guy playing Scrooge doing? You know what I mean? You know, so I thought. I thought his was an interesting. It was just a fun watch. So I'm looking this Christmas, I want to watch it again just because of. Obviously because I'm passing away and everything and kind of, like, honor him that way, you know, I [00:44:59] Speaker A: might have to, too. Yeah, that's great. [00:45:02] Speaker B: But I threw that in at number three, so good job. What do we got? [00:45:06] Speaker A: My number two. I mean, yeah, I know Professor X was number three, but if you know him and huge American dad fan. So his. My number two is he played Avery Bullock on American Dad. He was Stan's boss. He was the FBI deputy director. Avery Bullock. The that they get him to say and do on the show is. It's hilarious, dude. Like, if you think it's funny to hear in Patrick Stewart, you know, do the. Like, in Men in Tights, like, if you hear some of the. That comes out of his mouth, dude, he's just like, it's. It's. He's such a gamer, dude. I love it. I love it. And, like, he pulls it off. Like, I mean, he was in 125 episodes of American Daddy. Was in so many episodes. They're definitely gonna have to address it on the show. And Seth MacFarlane actually does a great job of honoring, you know, actors who died in a funny and really good way, in a funny and yet a very serious, you know, tribute sort of way. He did well when Adam west died. He did really well. Carrie Fisher died. And I feel like he'll do something similar for Patrick Stewart. He kind of has to. And he knew the man personally. Of course he knew them all personally. There were voices on the show, but, no, him and Patrick Stewart were friends. So I'm sure he took it pretty hard. He actually knew the guy. Not just a jerk like me who just cries at work, but. But not dude. Matter of fact, I just texted this quote from American dad to somebody else, sir. Patrick Stewart said this line, and if I get it a little wrong, forgive me, folks, but let me set it up a little bit. So Francine, the wife on the show, was trying to spend more time with Stan, right? And she was trying to get into a men's club that Stan was spending too much time at. So she dressed up as a. As another FBI agent from Chicago in this suit. And, you know, she infiltrated, like, their men's club. So Roger is helping her Out. Then she's like. And Roger's like, listen, if they ever start to suspect you just fart. Farts put men in. You know, they put him at ease and they laugh about it, blah, blah, blah. So, you know, he. She does it a couple times to get out of trouble, but then, like, she goes to fart and, like, it just, like, it just goes on forever. Like, the fart doesn't stop. It's a malfunction in the suit, you know, so he runs away. And they're all like, yeah. And Patrick Stewart, who's jealous, every book is jealous, just to himself, just goes. Nobody's that perfect and farts that deep. You know, like. And I say to myself, sir, Patrick Stewart said that somebody brought him into studio and had him say that line. And that's probably not even like, top 10 of the worst he said on that show. Like, [00:47:44] Speaker B: yeah, it's [00:47:44] Speaker A: just great when you. He's a nut job. He's always whacked out on cocaine. He's always saying crazy sex. It's just. It's great. He's an amazing character. If I didn't like Star Trek, I'd be sad to see the character go. That's how. That's how much I'm into it. You know what I mean? [00:47:59] Speaker B: It's funny, you know, Like I said, he had him enjoy doing that. I'm sure. [00:48:04] Speaker A: I'm sure he did. He seemed like he had a blast. He's always. He's always just up for it. Like, you know, again, to the point where, like, it's not even shocking anymore. It's just like, oh, yeah, that's Patrick Stewart. The guy's a Guy's a. Guy's a nut job. [00:48:16] Speaker B: You know what I was thinking about? It's funny because you were like, you know. Yeah, you know, Seth McFarland actually knew. The guy wasn't like a jerk like me or whatever that, you know, I was. I was. But it made me think. I'm like, you know, could you have taken a bereavement day from your job for this? You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like, listen, if I [00:48:30] Speaker A: found out the night before, I might have gotten called out. I'm not. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I even told my co workers. I was like, listen, when John. When Patrick Stewart and. Or Harrison Ford die, I might not come into work the next day. I'm just letting you know. [00:48:42] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And [00:48:43] Speaker A: no, I wouldn't have been crying all day. I could have gone to work. But I would have been like that. I'm staying home and watching Star Trek and X Men all day. You know what I mean? Like I'm staying home and watching Patrick Stewart. That night, Luke and I both went home and watched the Inner Light, this absolutely amazing episode from Next Gen Season 5. Not one of my all time favorites, but for him, for Patrick Stewart. Oh man, what an episode. It's. It's on most check fans top 10 lists. Even most Czech fans in all Star Trek top 10 list. [00:49:14] Speaker B: Wow. [00:49:15] Speaker A: It's just a beautiful episode. It's definitely worth watching. I'm looking forward to when you get there. But yeah, no, yeah. Listen folks, if anybody you men of a certain five dudes who are listening to this, if you wanted to get just a hint of what Patrick Stewart's like on Star Trek, definitely check out that one episode. It's pretty fucking amazing. It's pretty beautiful. It's called the Inner Light. It's in season five. It's definitely worth checking out. [00:49:35] Speaker B: I'll probably get to in about five years. We'll see [00:49:37] Speaker A: you there. [00:49:38] Speaker B: You know. [00:49:39] Speaker A: Well, what do you got for number two? You got a second one here. [00:49:42] Speaker B: Well, what are we gonna do? You know, it's [00:49:44] Speaker A: all [00:49:44] Speaker B: right. I'm not an American dad guy. Not that I'm not. Wouldn't be. I'm sure I would love it and why I just haven't gotten around to it. But yeah, we gotta. I gotta put X Men. What are we doing? Of [00:49:53] Speaker A: course, [00:49:53] Speaker B: you know, we gotta go with the chalk here. Yeah. I mean, again, I know we've talked about all this before when you had it on there, but. Yeah, I mean it was just one of those things that, you know, I. I can't imagine anyone else have done it. I'm glad he got to get in the doomsday one before then. [00:50:11] Speaker A: I wonder if they had plans for Secret wars for him. [00:50:14] Speaker B: Now that was going to be my next question, but I figured we'd get to it when I was here. Is that, you know, I know you had mentioned the Secret Wars. I'm like, you know, it's almost like. And that was gonna be, what are they. I don't know what they've done with even the Black Panther character there. Like, you know, but they haven't, they haven't. Have anybody, has anybody replaced him? [00:50:34] Speaker A: Yeah, well, yeah, not, not the character. They. They just let him die. So they, they. In the second one, the sister of Shuri, she became Black Panther. [00:50:42] Speaker B: Okay. [00:50:42] Speaker A: So they treated. They. They actually. He actually died in. In universe. [00:50:47] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. [00:50:47] Speaker A: Which Is. Which is good. I think there was no other way to do that. I think that makes total sense. [00:50:51] Speaker B: Well, that's what I was gonna say. What about this one here? Now, it's the same kind of. I [00:50:54] Speaker A: mean, unless he was integral to the. I mean, he was, from what I read, and comic fans don't kill me for this. From what I meant remember reading, I don't think he was integral to the Secret wars plot line, nor the Doomsday plot line. But, like, you know, Secret wars has got so many people in it. Like, I just wonder if they need to explain it away or something. You know, if. If he dies in Doomsday, then you don't need to do anything. If he doesn't, then they might need to, you know, write him out of the. The plot line or something. But either way, it's a shame, because I. Because I don't. Again, I don't think he knew he had dementia until it was too late. You know what I mean? So it's not one of those things where it's like, all right, listen, I'm sick. I'll do this one last job, but don't write me in. You know what I mean? Like, who knew? [00:51:36] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I was gonna say, too. I. I remember. I knew from the Black Panther, too, because I. I mean, I saw the movie. What I was wondering was, I guess in some of the. I don't know why I was thinking this. In some of the ads for this Tuesday movie, when I saw the Black Panther character, maybe they went by so fast that it looked to me like it was a new person, but it must have been the girl. [00:51:56] Speaker A: Oh, no. It might be. It might be. It might be a new actor. It's definitely not. Just not t', Challa, though. It's definitely not. [00:52:03] Speaker B: Okay. [00:52:03] Speaker A: Not the. Not the Chadwick Boseman character. [00:52:06] Speaker B: Well, no, yeah, right. I got you there. Yeah, I figured that. I mean, [00:52:09] Speaker A: I hope not. That would be bad. [00:52:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, I figured, you know, I. I like the idea that you had American dad there because it's funny, like, I said, you knew, and you're such a die hard fan of the show that I'm [00:52:24] Speaker A: way too into [00:52:25] Speaker B: it, you know, But I feel like, you know, otherwise, I feel like it'd be like doing Harrison Ford and being. What's your number two, you know, Deckard from Blade, you know, I mean, like, what are we doing here? [00:52:34] Speaker A: I know, I know. And. And my favorite comic was X Men, too. It's. I. It's just I feel like he was. Yeah. You know, I don't know. I just feel like he zagged so much on American Dad. Like, it was a great showcase for his other side that I liked. I like putting that at number two. And again, I did not give much thought to the five. I really didn't like. [00:52:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I [00:52:55] Speaker A: really did not. I just wanted to talk about. And figured we'd throw a framework in there to talk about it, keep us on track. But, I mean, if I really thought about it, of course Professor X has more of an cultural impact than. Than, you know, Avery Bullock does. But me personally, like, I'm gonna miss Avery Bullock more than I'm gonna miss Charles Xavier, if that makes sense. [00:53:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So [00:53:14] Speaker A: there you go. So, yeah, so that. That. That says it all right there. [00:53:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I know we've already. We've talked a lot of Star Trek as it is, but we might as well get to the number one here. [00:53:22] Speaker A: Actually, I'm gonna make it. Make it weird here. So my number one is Darcy from now. Now, obviously it's John Luther Cardinal, but listen, I do got a couple honorable mentions that we didn't mention so far. This guy was all over the place. I did say Darcy is a joke there, but he played Darcy in Green Room. He played the bad guy pretty much in this great a 24 movie that came out, I want to say, in the mid 2010s, was one of the first really good A24 movies called Green Room. Anton Yelchin was in it again, which is weird. [00:53:54] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:53:55] Speaker A: This. This, like, white supremacist band plays this. Or not, the band's not really white supremacists, but they're sort of a, you know, edgy band. And they play in this white supremacist venue and goes down and they get trapped in there and they end up fighting for their lives against all these white supremacists. And Patrick Stewart plays the lead guy, you know, the sort of the. The. The Head wolf or whatever they call it. Like, you know, with all these white supremacists. Really, really good movie. I want to say his name right. Jeremy Soul. Solnair Solenier, solely near. Whatever. Good director. I've seen a few of his movies. I like it a lot. He's got a movie coming out, I want to say, called Scareground. I want to say it's coming out in January. Looks like a pretty good horror movie. Anyway, he's a really good director. Was a really good role for Patrick Stewart. Really. I've never seen him do this before, you know, really dark role. [00:54:50] Speaker B: That's cool. That sounds interesting as hell, I gotta tell you. [00:54:53] Speaker A: He played himself in an episode of Extras. Do you ever watch the show Extras with Ricky Gervais? [00:54:59] Speaker B: I've heard the show is great. I have not watched. [00:55:01] Speaker A: It's really great. Not a fan of Ricky Gervais these days, but I can't deny that the Office was really good. And, you know, a lot of the stuff he did early on, I loved. And Extras was great. And, you know, the episode was called Patrick Stewart. Like, what. Whoever the guest star is. Like the episode title was that name. And, you know, there. And he's. I just watched outtakes of the scene and they couldn't stop. Rickard Gervais couldn't stop laughing. Patrick Stewart was just cracking him up. So it's basically Patrick Stewart as playing himself is pitching a movie to Ricky Gervais or a script or something, and he's like. He's like, basically, I have powers and I could do things with my mind. And I'll give you an example. Walking down the street and a woman walks past and. And her clothes fall off and I get to see all of her. All of her nakedness and, you know, before she have a chance to put her knickers back on, I'm gone. And, you know, and so the whole pitch is him just getting women naked, including, like, Posh Spice and shit. Like. And like, he's playing it totally straight, which is hilarious because he's like, you know, have you. Have you seen Star Trek Next Generation? He's like, no. And he's like, you're not married? No. You don't have a girlfriend? No. And you haven't seen Star Trek. Interesting. You know, it's. It's. He's really fucking funny on there. So he was great in that shout out to Jay Blues, who will never, ever in a million leagues listen to this pod. He doesn't know what the podcast is. He wouldn't know how to listen to a podcast, but [00:56:24] Speaker B: it sounds about right. [00:56:25] Speaker A: When I. When I first got into Star Trek, when I first became friends with him, I should say, he knew I was into Star Trek. He sat me down and made me watch this movie. It's called Safe House. And Patrick Stewart plays this ex CIA agent. I think it was CIA folks. I haven't seen it in literally 30 years. So. And he plays this ex CIA agent or something who, oddly enough, does have dementia. And like, a lot of people from us, like his splinter cell or some are getting assassinated. So they're coming for him. But he hunkers down into his house, and he's got all the devices and gadgets and his training kicks in, but he's trying to remember. He doesn't remember who he is because he's got dementia. It's a pretty fucking interesting movie. His name was. I only know because I've looked it up for this Mace Sowell was his name in that movie. [00:57:13] Speaker B: Awesome. [00:57:13] Speaker A: Jay loved it. The movie was pretty good, but it's worth it for the Patrick Stewart of it all. So that was another honorable mention. That was an interesting movie. Safe House. You [00:57:21] Speaker B: know, it's funny. It's funny that you said, here's Jay now. He was not a Star Trek guy. He [00:57:26] Speaker A: watched. I made him watch the whole first season, and I think he kind of dug it a little bit. [00:57:29] Speaker B: Okay. No, but I guess my point is that he saw the movie Safe House without watching Star Trek. Correct. [00:57:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:35] Speaker B: Which I think I'm telling right now. This is hilarious. Me and my brother, I don't know what it was. We grew up maybe because my parents weren't into the movie. We never saw A Christmas Story. [00:57:45] Speaker A: Wow. [00:57:46] Speaker B: First time I saw it was like when Allison showed it to me, like, three years ago. I'm telling me now something I know. Everyone's like, how did. It was always on, you know, it wasn't a movie we ever went to. We always watched It's Wonderful Life. We were called 34th street or, you know, Rudolph and all that other Chevy Chase. Somehow we just never got around to seeing the damn movie. But ironically enough, we had seen a movie called the Dirt Bike Kid. That. The young guy with the glasses, Peter, whatever, he was in that movie. So we saw that movie. No one else heard of it, but we never saw Christmas. That's [00:58:17] Speaker A: funny. That was my go to Christmas movie when I was a kid. Christmas Story, Yeah. Loved it. Loved it. I wasn't, you know, I didn't see It's One of Her Life till I got older. I wasn't into. [00:58:27] Speaker B: I shouldn't say it's one of likes. I. I didn't see that till I was older either. So I'm thrilled. I'm trying to think of what the hell. I mean, Home Alone was right in all Wheelhouse too, when that came out. But there was. I don't know. I don't know what the hell it was. We just never, you know, again. You know, my parents didn't. Weren't into it, so it was never really on the TV in the background. It [00:58:40] Speaker A: was also the perfect age for My age group, like, I know it was perfect because it was like, just like, the humor was just sort. It wasn't edgy or anything, but it was just sort of like, oh, that's kind of naughty enough for. My age group was probably 10, 11, 12, maybe even a little earlier, but I remember all of my. We all talked about it at school. Like, everyone saw that movie, but another one we used to watch. While we're talking about Christmas, real quick. Have you ever seen the Night They Saved Christmas? Jacqueline Smith and her kids and Art Carney plays Santa. [00:59:12] Speaker B: Oh, I, you know what? I have it on my watches. I've heard of this. Check [00:59:15] Speaker A: it out. That was Ma Rizzo's favorite Christmas movie. We used to watch that every Christmas. [00:59:19] Speaker B: Interesting. I have to check it out. [00:59:20] Speaker A: Yeah, you gotta check that out and then we'll let my mom know you watched it. We used to watch that. We love, we loved it every. We used to, we used to love it. Watched every year. We still love it. [00:59:28] Speaker B: It's funny because I remember our Carney playing Santa Claus on a Twilight Zone. [00:59:32] Speaker A: He did. I just watched that one. Yeah, [00:59:33] Speaker B: yeah, yeah, yeah, [00:59:34] Speaker A: yeah, yeah. He was. That was one of the weird ones that was filmed on. It wasn't. It was filmed on video. [00:59:40] Speaker B: Yes. There [00:59:40] Speaker A: was like four of them that were filmed like that and had that weird, like, film texture. [00:59:45] Speaker B: I had to look it up. Why? It looked so weird. [00:59:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was good. It was, it was a good one. Our Carney was good. [00:59:51] Speaker B: Real quick. Okay. [00:59:52] Speaker A: So, yeah, no, I was just, I was just gonna, I was. Do you have any, you have any, any other honorable mentions? Anything else to throw out there for Patrick Stewart? [00:59:57] Speaker B: I, I, not really. I, I just. True. I had the ones I had there. I didn't really dive there. I didn't even think about honorable mentions because I was rushing to get my five, but. Yeah. Did you have more there? No, [01:00:06] Speaker A: I mean, not really. There are a few other ones I can mention, but I mean, you know, we're just, we're just, you know, taking up time at this point. [01:00:13] Speaker B: I was gonna say real quick before I, you know, we, you know, go on here with the, with the Star Trek. I was gonna say you mentioned that Patrick Stewart was in the horror movie there or an 824. Yeah, [01:00:22] Speaker A: green room. [01:00:23] Speaker B: This is just a real quick side tangent. I feel like I got to throw this out there. Maybe people will laugh at this or go along or be shocked too, but this is spoiler alert, by the way, so get ready for this. But Ready? Halloween has just passed, you know, but what. Did Patrick Stewart die? Was. It was. It was. It wasn't on Halloween, right? Was it? But it was. [01:00:40] Speaker A: No, I don't think so. Was a few days before that, I think, [01:00:43] Speaker B: because we. We decided we're gonna watch. Let's be like, let's watch a horror movie. And again, I'm not a big horror movie. I like the old Universal monster movies, but. Because they're not going to scare me. This [01:00:51] Speaker A: right? [01:00:52] Speaker B: But. But we're flipping through. I had. I had seen the original Halloween movie, you know, and I liked it. I had never seen Friday 13, so. Neither. And Allison. So, like, oh, let's put this on. So we put it on. You know, I got. It was a lot of fun. Everything, you know, But I don't know how to understand how in 40. Whatever the fuck it is, years, has this thing never been spoiled for me? The whole time I'm watching this movie, I'm going, where the fuck is the hockey mask? [01:01:15] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:01:17] Speaker B: The whole. The whole time. He [01:01:18] Speaker A: wasn't the killer in the first one. [01:01:20] Speaker B: No. No. I don't know how I was not wild to this. My whole life. I was like, what the am I watching here? [01:01:26] Speaker A: You saw Scream, right? [01:01:28] Speaker B: I did. They [01:01:29] Speaker A: spoiled that in the beginning. That was one of the trivia questions that he asked Drew Barrymore in the beginning. [01:01:34] Speaker B: So, you know. You know what? You know, what must have happened there was that I. Again, I had not seen Friday the 13th, [01:01:39] Speaker A: right? [01:01:39] Speaker B: And here it is. What year did scream come out? [01:01:41] Speaker A: 96. [01:01:43] Speaker B: Yeah. So now I think, how many years later? Like, whatever. If they mentioned it, then I must have been like, oh, my God, he's not even in the original. And I totally forgot. I haven't seen Scream since basically came out. Yeah, [01:01:52] Speaker A: yeah, yeah, [01:01:52] Speaker B: that shows you. And it's funny you said it, because I'm sure other people in school must have mentioned it when they're bothering other movies, and they just. I. I never really. I don't know why I never stuck to my mind, because I was sitting there going, by the time when we sat down and watches, I. I never had to expect that he wasn't going to be in the movie at all. It's hilarious. [01:02:07] Speaker A: I was never a Friday the 13th guy. I. I think I saw one. I think I saw 1. 4. I saw. I never saw all of them. I saw like 1 and 4 and Jason takes Manhattan and Jason Lives and a few of these and J. Freddy versus Jason. And I've probably seen five or six out of all of Them, but I was never a big fan. I was more of a Nightmare on Elm street guy. I saw all those. [01:02:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I never saw them. They seem too freaky. That [01:02:29] Speaker A: would, that would, that's scarier than Friday 13th, I think. [01:02:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, big time. Yeah. I don't know if I might, might be a long time video, but yeah. Anyway, you know, you know, let's get back to number one here. Yeah, [01:02:38] Speaker A: so [01:02:39] Speaker B: look, [01:02:39] Speaker A: obviously it's, you know, it's Captain Picard, man. Like I'm a Star Trek guy. Like, you know, primarily Patrick Stewart is always going to be Captain Picard to me, you know, you can't say enough about what he brought to Star Trek. When he came on board in 87 and started playing the captain, the show was not a guaranteed success. Like people didn't know, they didn't even know if there was an audience for this. You know, you're gonna reboot Star Trek. And again, they didn't reboot it. It's continuation. But like no one really saw. You're Gonna, you know, 80 years in the future, you're gonna take it from, you know, you're not gonna continue the Kirk thing. So bringing him on board, the gravitas that he brought to the role, the gravitas that he brought to Star Trek in general, he, he legitimized it for a lot of people. Not that it wasn't legitimized already, but he really, you know, grounded it for some people. Here's this classically trained Shakespearean actor who's gonna take on the main role in a Star Trek show. And you know, the first season was shaky as you, as, you know, not just among viewers but critics as well. It got some flack for, you know, copying the original series and blah, blah, blah. But I mean, once it took off, it was, it was, it was a mega hit. And I know some of you out there are listening to this and you're like, I don't remember it being a mega hit. I mean, and you might not have watched it. But you know, like I've mentioned this before, I, I knew non Star Trek families who were watching this every week just because it was just such a good show. So what Patrick Stewart brought to Star Trek can't be undersold. But you know, it wasn't just his gravitas, man. The man's an amazing actor. And you know, it could have been, it could have been easy to copy the Kirk model, but he, he went, he went against the grain. You know, he's not gonna, he's not Gonna punch a guy every episode. He's gonna, you know, think his way out of it. He's gonna call upon history and literature and architecture and, you know, archaeology to inform how he confronts these problems. It's, you know, and the joke became, you know, oh, you know, Captain Picard's a pussy. Kirk would kick the shit out of him. Well, yeah, probably, of course. But, you know, it's two different. Two different takes on, you know, that same sort of captain role. It's really interesting what he did. And I know you've seen a glimmer of that, having seen the first, whatever it is, 14, 15 episodes of next Gen. But I mean, like, you're really gonna. He really let you dive in at some point. You know, you could really immerse yourself in just, you know, the lessons that Captain Picard can teach. It's really. It's really an amazing character. [01:05:16] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, listen, there's a few things now you made me hit on here that I want to. You know, it makes me think again, not obviously being Star wars, as you were a Star wars guy, too, but it's like I remember reading things or, you know, watching some of these documentaries about it, and it was like, you know, a lot of the actors that were working on there were younger or not really known or whatever, but they always kind of mentioned that when. When Alec Guinness came on board, it kind of bought this energy there that was like, oh, wow, this is, like, legit now. Like, great comparison. So it's kind of like. Kind of what you're kind of saying about this, right? I mean, what. They must be like, oh, we got him now. We can. This is for real here. You know, and [01:05:48] Speaker A: it makes everybody else ups their game, right? It was like, oh, we got a Shakespearean actor up here talking about warp cores and phasers. All right. I guess we got to up our talent a little bit. Jesus Christ. [01:05:59] Speaker B: That's awesome. Yeah. And now what about. I was gonna say, you know, for you, too. I'm thinking about you specifically. It's what's interesting as. As for people of your generation is that, you know, I've always loved the whole friendly rivalry between the. The Trek people as far as the. The Kirk and Picard thing, where it's like, you know. Right. Because this was your Kirk in a way, right? I mean, you. This was the guy, you know, grew up in. Was this. He was your captain. Oh, sure, [01:06:25] Speaker A: big time. Yeah. And. And look, we talked about that, that. That was a big thing in the 90s and maybe the early 2000s I feel like it's overblown now. I feel like nobody cares anymore, but like they're just more mad about they lump in Next Gen and D Space, Voyager and Enterprise with the original series as being like good Trek and some fans. Everything after that is bad track, you know what I mean? So some people think of it like that. So Next Gen, D Space, they all get a pass now and again. Whatever, no judgment here. You like, whatever shows you like, whatever people you like. But yeah, no, that rivalry was a thing for a while. It was like, who's your captain? Picard or Kirk, you know, but just the idea. Think about that. Just the idea that he's mentioned in the same breath as Kirk. Right. The iconic James T. Kirk. Right. William Shatner had solidified that role. Everyone knew Captain Kirk and Spock, no matter whether you're into Star Trek or not. And for another captain to get up to that level, it's pretty freaking amazing if you ask me. And that's a testament to what Patrick Stewart did with the role. [01:07:22] Speaker B: Do you think that it would have been interesting, like when they were all still around, you know, at least. I mean, obviously the, the original crew is going to be older here, but, you know, I know because I know again, we talked about this before they made the movie where they kind of came together. Yeah. Where they were [01:07:34] Speaker A: past the torch, really. [01:07:36] Speaker B: If they. It would, I think it would be interesting. This is like just a. Here [01:07:41] Speaker A: we [01:07:41] Speaker B: go. But like, you know, it's almost like, you know, one of those like 18 or vice versa or like. What is it? Oh, God, you devil. When they swap 18 [01:07:51] Speaker A: again. Yeah, yeah. Freaky Friday. [01:07:53] Speaker B: Like, I mean, if, if for some reason they had like they swapped, like they swapped ships, like, you know, Picard is, is commandeering. He's leading like Spock and them, like they have to like lead the other crew. Yeah, right, right. That'd be kind of interesting. That'd [01:08:08] Speaker A: be really interesting. Yeah. I think Riker and Troy be wondering why Captain McCrar was punching everybody in the face and Spock and Bones and be like, Jesus, this guy, you know, just, just throw him out the airlock, Jim. [01:08:21] Speaker B: Well, maybe I shouldn't have prefaced it though. Maybe not switching bodies, but maybe it was actually them as the character, like watching Picard. [01:08:30] Speaker A: Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay, okay, okay. You [01:08:32] Speaker B: know, that, that I shouldn't have preface it that way. But you know, I was thinking like, I was thinking about them beaming the other ship and you're right, but that, that is a hilarious idea too. But that's a comic video. That's hilarious. [01:08:40] Speaker A: That dude was the first one you thought of. Vice versa. That's hilarious. [01:08:44] Speaker B: Do you know why? Because that was the one we, we had seen first. So I never saw. I still to this day I had never seen. I'm trying to think what was it? What was the other one? Freaky Friday or whatever. I never. Freaky [01:08:51] Speaker A: Friday. 18 again. And 18 again was the George Burns one. [01:08:56] Speaker B: Oh, that was the one I saw. Then 18 again. 18 again I saw. But I knew the vice versa when we had watched a lot more on hbo. We were kids, [01:09:02] Speaker A: right? And there's one more out there that I can't think of. It's on the vine. It's Freaky Friday, vice versa. 18 again. And there was one more with, oh, like father, like son. The one with Dudley Moore and Kirk Cameron. [01:09:11] Speaker B: Yes, yes, that's right. Hey, but no, I think that idea would have been interesting, you know, and the other thing I was gonna say was, I was gonna ask you was. I don't know if we've talked about this before on the POD too. Is do you think like years from now would they again, let's say, I mean Star Trek's doing a lot of right now, so let's say there's another lull happens or something like that. [01:09:31] Speaker A: It might about to happen actually. [01:09:33] Speaker B: Okay. Could you see them doing what they did with Chris Pine and, and Kirk with someone and Picard down the line, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, here's like an origin story. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, [01:09:47] Speaker A: maybe. I mean, I'll tell you what. James McAvoy wants to play a young Picard. He's a huge Patrick Stewart fan. He loved. He, he was desperate to get cast as a young Professor X. And I saw an interview, I don't know how recent it was, but he was like, oh yeah, he's like, I've pitched a young Picard show to people. So it's funny you said that, like he wants to play young Picard. And I'm like, well, hell yeah, of course. What's funny now is that he's as old as Patrick Stewart was when he took the role of Jean Luc Picard though, you know what I mean? So Patrick Stewart was 47 when he took that role. You know, he wasn't, he was, he was already middle aged pretty much. And James McAvoy is pretty much that age now. I think so. But to answer your question, yeah, I mean I, you Know, like, why not? Like, especially, you know, given his legacy now, I don't see why not. I mean, the fan base is there for it. It's just a question of whether or not, you know, the new owners at Paramount want to do something with it. I know they're coming up with a movie and it's gonna be a completely different direction. It's gonna be a new crew, new characters. It's set in the Star Trek universe, but it's gonna be something new. Kind of like what Quentin Tarantino wanted to do when he wanted to direct his Star Trek movie back in the day. But there's no shows that have been greenlit except for the season two of Starfleet Academy is coming out. And then so far, that's it. There's a, there's a lot of rumors going around. A show called Star Trek Unity where Scott Bakula would reprise his role as Captain Archer. But Star Trek might be headed for another lull period. It might have been too much, too fast, and you know, boom. Which again, isn't a terrible thing. Like you're talking to the guy who wants as much Star Trek as possible. But it's okay. I mean, I got enough content to last me a while for now, and then hopefully this movie does well and we'll see, we'll see where it goes from there. But yeah, I would definitely see that as a possibility in the future. Why not? [01:11:29] Speaker B: And be funny if he keeps taking over all this. Like he's on the American dad now. He's like, [01:11:34] Speaker A: you know what's funny? Don't, don't think that's not a possibility. Honestly. Don't think Steph McFarlane Farland wouldn't reach out and be like, hey, listen, you know, do you want to play Avery Bullock's son? Like, that's a distinct possibility. And it would, it would, would get away with, you know, having a character replacement, but still honoring the memory of it. [01:11:54] Speaker B: And I [01:11:55] Speaker A: think I want to, I want to twit, send it, hit him up on X and be like, dude, do that, please. That's a great idea. Bomber, you should do. Seriously, if that happens now, that would be really cool. [01:12:06] Speaker B: Damn. It was. Oh, you know what I should. Was it was this on, on the original show, like, like you said now Picard called Spike. Spiker. Picard calls Riker number one. Yes, right. Like his, he's, he's the right hand man. Whatever. Did Kirk have one of them? Am I misremembering? It wasn't technical. Pike. Pike. [01:12:26] Speaker A: So, yeah, no, Kirk never called I mean, he might have a couple times, but he never called Spot. He was just his first officer. They changed the terminology from Number One to first Officer, but it's something that I guess Next Gen or Patrick Stewart or Gene Roddenberry decided to honor when they did Next Gen. In the pilot episode, Jeffrey Hunter refers to Magell Barrett, Roddenberry's future wife, as Number one, and Rebecca Romijn plays her on Strange New Worlds. So Rebecca Romijn is Anson Mount's number one on the show. [01:12:57] Speaker B: But I guess my question is gonna be, does. Has it. There's never been a Number One that's kind of had his. Became the captain and ran the right. I mean, like, Riker was never the captain. [01:13:07] Speaker A: I mean, spoiler alert. Like, he does become captain after the show, and we see him as captain on many other shows. [01:13:12] Speaker B: Oh, interesting. Oh, interesting. Yeah. [01:13:14] Speaker A: So he pops up as a captain on Lower Decks on, you know, the Picard show, on all that stuff, I think on Voyager, [01:13:19] Speaker B: too. Yeah. Okay. Oh, nice. Matter [01:13:21] Speaker A: of fact, you'll see Jordy as a captain on Voyager. You know what I mean? Like, they all. After the show ended, the movies were over, they went on to, like, become captains, and, you know, Sulu was a captain in Star Trek 6. You know, [01:13:31] Speaker B: I guess. I guess what I was asking was that you never, like, you know, they never ran the whole. The whole, like, for a couple of seasons, like a show show, you know what I mean? It was like they're. They're the center of the. The [01:13:41] Speaker A: only one I can think of is Discovery off the top of my head. Whereas, you know, the first officer was Saru, played by Doug Jones in the first season. He became captain, I want to say, for the second season, and then he became Michael Burnham's number one. He became Sonia Martin Green's number one in season three, I think. But I might be getting that wrong. I'm so due for Discovery rewatch. [01:14:06] Speaker B: Now. The other thing, the last thing I was gonna hit on was that now me and you went to the Comic Con there a couple years ago, and they had shown the trailer for the [01:14:15] Speaker A: Picard season three. Yep. [01:14:17] Speaker B: Right. And he was there, and he was a. We were in the room with him. Right. [01:14:21] Speaker A: Everybody was there. Yep. [01:14:23] Speaker B: Now, have you. Was that the first time you had. I know, I know. You know, you never met him, but was that the first time he. You saw him in one of these kind of events, right? Oh, yeah. Seen him before, like, that first [01:14:32] Speaker A: time. [01:14:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, that's a. That was a cool thing, at least, you know, [01:14:35] Speaker A: My father. I went to a couple conventions back in the 90s, but no, Patrick Stewart was never at either of those. You know, Wharf was. And, you know, Terry Farrell was. Was one. And [01:14:44] Speaker B: Crusher. Yeah, [01:14:44] Speaker A: Crusher. Right. But, like, we never saw Patrick Stewart. I've never been. Yeah. Seeing them live, that was a real thrill. I mean, the whole crew, seeing them up there was a real thrill. That. That was great. Yeah. It's funny, I wish I was in because I just finished Prodigy. I wish I was into Prodigy when we went to that convention, because that was a season two panel for Prodigy as well, if you remember. So that was. That was kind of fun, too. There were three, and then there's a lower decks. I want to say. Well, [01:15:08] Speaker B: no, you. You. You. You're. You're doing it. [01:15:11] Speaker A: No, I'm not. No. This is Comic Con. There were three different panels for that live in Comic Con. We went to New York. It wasn't just the Next Gen panel. There were three different. Or at least two different panels. [01:15:21] Speaker B: But you're not blending it with the Sequoia. No, [01:15:23] Speaker A: no, no, [01:15:24] Speaker B: no. Did you [01:15:26] Speaker A: remember Kate McGrew was on stage with the whole Prodigy cast? [01:15:29] Speaker B: You know. You know what? You. I remember cable grew. And you're right, because you know what? I'm the one that's blending it, because I remember we watched the lower decks thing, but it was at Sir Caucus. Yeah. [01:15:39] Speaker A: Matter of fact. Yeah. They announced that Jamila Jamil was gonna join season two of Prodigy at that convention. That's where they dropped that. Yeah, yeah. [01:15:47] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. Got you. Gotcha, gotcha. But, yeah, I do remember that now. But [01:15:50] Speaker A: you're right. I. I do. I do get the two confused. [01:15:53] Speaker B: Well, obviously, me too. [01:15:57] Speaker A: So listen, man, like, some final thoughts on Patrick Stewart. Right? Like this. He was just so great, man. He was such a gamer. Like, we're gonna. I mean, not we. I mean, we're all gonna miss him, but I'm gonna miss his sense of humor. I'm gonna miss just his love for the. The fan base. I'm gonna miss his love for theater and literature and just hearing him talk and hear him do interviews and, you know, we're never gonna hear that voice again. It's just. It's just such a shame. You know, I know the man was 86. I'm sure he lived a full life, and, you know, but I really thought we had a few more years with him, so, you know, just rest in peace, man. I'm certainly gonna miss. Miss the characters. I'm gonna miss the actor, and I Think. I think we all are, man. What are your final thoughts about Patrick Stewart, sir? Patrick Stewart. [01:16:38] Speaker B: I agree. It's funny. It's like I'm trying to think of the right way to describe it where it's like, you know, I didn't have that, that whole thing with him anywhere near like you guys did because that, you know, he wasn't someone that was like that for me. But it's one, you know, I'm trying to think how to, you know, like, you mentioned a lot of people before that was kind of like, you know, like John Candy and Robin Williams. It was like, you know, now again, I haven't really cried yet. I'm waiting for that. I mean, you know, but I remember when those things happened, it was kind of like, you know, you almost, like, you need to take a breath. It's almost like you, you, you. I don't know. I, I, it reminds me of. This is so corny, but this is so dumb. When Alec Guinness in Star wars, when he's like, you know, when all of a sudden he, he's training Luke and he has to sit down, like, what happened? I feel like, you know, all these people have been silenced, but it's almost like that kind of reaction, you kind of sit back and you're like, man, that blows, man. You know what I mean? Like, it really hits you in a way where [01:17:33] Speaker A: big time and [01:17:33] Speaker B: with this [01:17:34] Speaker A: Matthew Perry, too, was a hard hit. I forgot about him. But that was a big one, too. [01:17:38] Speaker B: There you go. [01:17:39] Speaker A: Because it's so unexpected, you know, that that's what it gets you. No offense to John Kenny. I'm a big guy, too. But, like, when you hear he dies, you're like, well, okay. Like, I, I could see that he wasn't taking care of himself as young as he was. That's it. You know, John Belushi stuff. Like, you're like, all right, I'm not happy about it. Chris Farley. I'm not happy about it. But like, I get [01:17:56] Speaker B: it. [01:17:57] Speaker A: But like, when Robin Williams dies or when, you know, when, when Patrick Stewart dies or like, you know, Phil Hartman, you're like, holy, you know? [01:18:05] Speaker B: Yeah. And like you said, I know he was an older, older guy, too, but it wasn't like you heard that he was going through shit. We really didn't hear nothing. All of a sudden, you know, there he is, you know. But I guess I was, even though he wasn't someone that I grew up with and all this other stuff, it was like, you knew, we all knew him. So it's like, you know, so to hear that, it was kind of like, you know, it was just like, it was just like, that sucks. Like, we, we all, we all lose today. You know what I mean? It was like that kind of feel [01:18:26] Speaker A: 100%. I definitely, definitely think that's, that's so true. We, we all lost. You know, we'll remember him and, you know, he's gonna get honor after honor, I'm sure in the coming months, you know, I'm sure Track's gonna do some stuff. It is what it is. Like, you know, what can you do? The thing is like, you know, in my head, like, William Shatner's still alive. He's still ticking. He's still going strong at 95, 96, whatever he is. And it just didn't make sense to me that he would go before William Shatner. I don't know. Not that I want William shat anything to happen to William Shatner, of course, but. [01:18:58] Speaker B: Of course. Well, [01:18:58] Speaker A: it's kind of like the whole thing where like, you expect the parent to die before the kid. You expect, you know, it's just kind of like I didn't, I didn't see him dying yet. I just wasn't kind of ready for it. Even, even as frail as he seemed at times, like he still, I don't know, he wasn't ready for it. But hey, like I said, I, I would sign up for 86 right now, so. [01:19:17] Speaker B: No doubt, no doubt. Yeah. You know, you know, as much as we lost there, you know, when you think about it, when it happens, just like any other kind of guy, grieving thing, you know, you look at it like we lost here, but, you know, at the end we won because we had, look at all the we got with him, you know, like he gave us, he gave us so much, [01:19:30] Speaker A: so many, so many things to go back and watch for the rest of my life. I'll be watching him in Star Trek and X Men, you know, in American Dad. Definitely Futurama, you know, Family Guy. So, yeah, he's always going to be a part of our lives. He's always going to be a part of our entertainment. It's a shame. Rest in peace, Patrick Stewart. But hey, I'm glad we got a chance to talk about him. I think this was a good idea. Thanks for doing this. I know we, we slapped it together last minute to just kind of talk about him a little bit, but now, big fan. Listen, everybody, thank you so much for listening. Thanks for sharing, you know, Patrick Stewart's memory with you guys. Hopefully, you Feel, you know, the loss like we all do, because what can I say? Great guy. I wish I knew him personally, but, uh, I didn't. I assume he's a great guy. Let's just go ahead and assume he was. And, uh, rest in peach. Rest in peace, Patrick Stewart. Bummer. Last. Last thoughts. [01:20:24] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, I'm glad we did this. I know, I know. You know, it was funny because I was. I even told Phil, I said, you know, if I can't get around to doing it today, if I can't get around to doing this today, I want you to do a solo because I know this means so much to you too, specifically. And I didn't want it to be waiting around to do it because I know he had a lot to say on it and. But I'm glad I got to hop on and do it, you know, again. It's like, I kind of like the idea that we've always had this dynamic where like, I'm kind of an outside guy looking in with the Star Trek, but I still feel like it's a. You know, because like you, like you said at the top, he was so much more than just that. It's amazing to, to think that he's so associated with it. But, but I was gonna say, you know, I know next time we hit the. Hit the boards here with the Star Trek pod, we're probably gonna break into the next episode there when [01:21:09] Speaker A: the bow breaks. [01:21:10] Speaker B: When about breaks. And as far as the men of a certain five. We haven't picked our five yet. No, [01:21:15] Speaker A: let's do it because I can't wait to start put together. [01:21:17] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure we're gonna do a movie one. I think because we did a sports one and we did TV last time. Zara. I [01:21:23] Speaker A: think it's what we said. Yeah. [01:21:25] Speaker B: And we got to. I gotta talk about my. My man Jack with that list. Boy, I gotta tell you, on Star Trek, we got. We gotta. I. I can't wait. I gotta break that down. That was, that was a great, [01:21:33] Speaker A: awesome. We'll talk more about that on the next checkpod. Then we'll talk about Jack's top 10 Lower Decks episodes. That was a great pod. It did a great job, didn't he? [01:21:40] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely 100. So, yeah, looking forward to it. But yeah. So, yeah, listen, this has been fun and I'm glad we could talk about Patrick Stewart and I'm sure we talking about him a lot more down the line. What can we say? [01:21:52] Speaker A: Thanks for listening, guys.